Great comment SpaMaster!SpaMaster wrote:I am with you on what you say on Webber, but not on Red Bull. I think Webber may want to look else where. Would love to go to Ferrari. I don't think Red Bull is favouring Vettel at all. If I were a team principal, I would be very angry with Webber for holding his line like that. To the public, I would claim that both drivers are at fault, and in the racing sense, they both were at fault. But, in the team sense, Webber should have never held Vettel so tight like that. Horner and Marko initially let their tongue slip to the public. If Kimi had been put in Webber's position, do you think he would hold his line so tight like that? I don't think so. So, I don't think Red Bull gave preferential treatment. However, Webber is a hot-head, and is going to feel hurt, and would try to leave the team if possible. Ferrari just need to knock Webber's door. Webber would be there in no time, like Button was to McLaren last year. I don't know. Let's see. Also, as some people have said, it's a long season and there is no guarantee how Webber would perform when the heat is on with strong competition from McLaren. I already believe that the reason he had such comfortable gap on Vettel was because of the chassis defect. Once the car is alright, Vettel would easily have the handle on Webber. Do you think, if Webber lags Vettel at end of the season by the same margin as in 2009, he would retain his seat? I doubt it.brendakarli wrote:hi guys,
sorry I have been away - my dad suffered a heart attack but he's better now... I think this new deal with Mark is to soothe over the past week's events and to give him some comfort after the worldwide support he got over this. I believe it is like this...but maybe mark may not want to stay and you know how kimi is averse to politics and now maybe is is also wondering if he will get equal treatment. I am ready to kiss kim's f1 career goodbye now...
After all these, our man has to decide whether he wants to come back to F1. God save Kimi fans. Even if Red Bull has a vacant seat, it is no guarantee Kimi wants it. Fun, isn't it?
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I expect both Webber and Massa to sign another year with their respective teams.SpaMaster wrote: I am with you on what you say on Webber, but not on Red Bull. I think Webber may want to look else where. Would love to go to Ferrari. I don't think Red Bull is favouring Vettel at all. If I were a team principal, I would be very angry with Webber for holding his line like that. To the public, I would claim that both drivers are at fault, and in the racing sense, they both were at fault. But, in the team sense, Webber should have never held Vettel so tight like that. Horner and Marko initially let their tongue slip to the public. If Kimi had been put in Webber's position, do you think he would hold his line so tight like that? I don't think so. So, I don't think Red Bull gave preferential treatment. However, Webber is a hot-head, and is going to feel hurt, and would try to leave the team if possible. Ferrari just need to knock Webber's door. Webber would be there in no time, like Button was to McLaren last year. I don't know. Let's see.
After all these, our man has to decide whether he wants to come back to F1. God save Kimi fans. Even if Red Bull has a vacant seat, it is no guarantee Kimi wants it. Fun, isn't it?
I don't know if Kimi will have a chance to come back to F1, but I don't see him being ready for that yet.
The big question is is he ready to stay in WRC? Can he let go F1? If F1 stays an unfinished business, there might be a frustration in him, that holds him back like we saw with Schumacher. Could he improve in rallye enough to challenge the best at all ? Can he improve fast enough to decide soon that he wants to turn back or commit to WRC for long enough to achive what he wants?
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Love itSpaMaster wrote:...After all these, our man has to decide whether he wants to come back to F1. God save Kimi fans. Even if Red Bull has a vacant seat, it is no guarantee Kimi wants it. Fun, isn't it?
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Oh Brenda hope you dad recovers fast
Kimi Kimi gimme just a little smile
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Me too. Well wishes to your dadClaudie_Schnaudie wrote:Oh Brenda hope you dad recovers fast
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Absolutely!marrie17 wrote:Me too. Well wishes to your dadClaudie_Schnaudie wrote:Oh Brenda hope you dad recovers fast
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I think that too!!!SpaMaster wrote: Ferrari just need to knock Webber's door. Webber would be there in no time, like Button was to McLaren last year.
hehe... fun? Dunno... nerve wrecking, nail biting experience, I would say...SpaMaster wrote:After all these, our man has to decide whether he wants to come back to F1. God save Kimi fans. Even if Red Bull has a vacant seat, it is no guarantee Kimi wants it. Fun, isn't it?
@Beefree: good questions!
@Brenda: I wish your father a speedy recovery and I'm happy that he feels better now.
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link:Raikkonen to get more testing
Kimi Raikkonen will test his Red Bull Citroen C4 WRC more over the second half of the season - with 10 days of running time in the car being set aside to get the Finn up to speed for the next seven rallies.
Raikkonen ended last week's Rally of Portugal in 10th place, but Citroen Junior Team manager Benoit Nogier said it was tough to expect anything more from the largely inexperienced Finn. The former Formula 1 world champion has only just completed his seventh round of the World Rally Championship.
"He is at the finish in Portugal – this is the most important thing," said Nogier.
"After that, it was a bit less good than the Rally of Turkey [where he finished fifth], but definitely after a break of one and a half months it was hard to get the rhythm directly and also this rally was not new for the other drivers like it was for Kimi – and that's definitely a disadvantage for him. The Rally of Portugal is not an easy one to come and learn for the first time.
"We have more testing planned for the next part of the season. Of course, we have the Lanterna Rally coming up in Italy, which will be Kimi's first time on asphalt. And then we have another test for the gravel.
"We will have maybe 10 days of testing before the end of the season. He has a two-day test before Finland, one day and a half before Germany and two days before GB, two days before France, one or two before Catalunya, it's a lot of testing. This will help for sure."
Despite expectations that Raikkonen will be quicker once he gets onto a more familiar surface, Nogier added that it was unrealistic to expect Raikkonen to be faster on asphalt rallies because of his racing background.
"We know that, if we could compare F1 to a rally car, tarmac would be closer, but this is so different, it's too hard to say," he said.
Raikkonen admitted that his inexperience had proved particularly costly in Portugal.
"It's been a really tough weekend, but this is all part of the learning process," he said. "The other drivers have been to Portugal for the past three years, so it's hard to be on their pace. My only objective though was to finish the rally and gain more experience, so we have fulfilled our goal.
"The last day was particularly difficult, as the handling of the car did not feel right, so we decided to play it safe and make sure of a finish. Then we hit something on the side of the road just after the start of the first stage in the afternoon and that gave us a puncture, which cost us a lot of time."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84089?
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season
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luieluv wrote:link:Raikkonen to get more testing
Kimi Raikkonen will test his Red Bull Citroen C4 WRC more over the second half of the season - with 10 days of running time in the car being set aside to get the Finn up to speed for the next seven rallies.
Raikkonen ended last week's Rally of Portugal in 10th place, but Citroen Junior Team manager Benoit Nogier said it was tough to expect anything more from the largely inexperienced Finn. The former Formula 1 world champion has only just completed his seventh round of the World Rally Championship.
"He is at the finish in Portugal – this is the most important thing," said Nogier.
"After that, it was a bit less good than the Rally of Turkey [where he finished fifth], but definitely after a break of one and a half months it was hard to get the rhythm directly and also this rally was not new for the other drivers like it was for Kimi – and that's definitely a disadvantage for him. The Rally of Portugal is not an easy one to come and learn for the first time.
"We have more testing planned for the next part of the season. Of course, we have the Lanterna Rally coming up in Italy, which will be Kimi's first time on asphalt. And then we have another test for the gravel.
"We will have maybe 10 days of testing before the end of the season. He has a two-day test before Finland, one day and a half before Germany and two days before GB, two days before France, one or two before Catalunya, it's a lot of testing. This will help for sure."
Despite expectations that Raikkonen will be quicker once he gets onto a more familiar surface, Nogier added that it was unrealistic to expect Raikkonen to be faster on asphalt rallies because of his racing background.
"We know that, if we could compare F1 to a rally car, tarmac would be closer, but this is so different, it's too hard to say," he said.
Raikkonen admitted that his inexperience had proved particularly costly in Portugal.
"It's been a really tough weekend, but this is all part of the learning process," he said. "The other drivers have been to Portugal for the past three years, so it's hard to be on their pace. My only objective though was to finish the rally and gain more experience, so we have fulfilled our goal.
"The last day was particularly difficult, as the handling of the car did not feel right, so we decided to play it safe and make sure of a finish. Then we hit something on the side of the road just after the start of the first stage in the afternoon and that gave us a puncture, which cost us a lot of time."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84089?
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For me this is an indication that Raikkonen will continu in the WRC. He and Citroen are investing in the future.
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Ploert wrote:For me this is an indication that Raikkonen will continu in the WRC. He and Citroen are investing in the future.
I just don't get that why didn't Kimi test more during this 1,5 months long break?
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Kimi makes a party to Axl Rose and other band in his village in Porkkala when Axl visit in Finland next weekend. They can party without outsiders Kimi and Rose are been a good friends several years.Anelise wrote:http://www.mtv3.fi/ohjelmat/sivusto2008 ... at?1136300
Nicole can help us?
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Jenni is there too organizing the party with Kimi.Moominpappa wrote:Kimi makes a party to Axl Rose and other band in his village in Porkkala when Axl visit in Finland next weekend. They can party without outsiders Kimi and Rose are been a good friends several years.Anelise wrote:http://www.mtv3.fi/ohjelmat/sivusto2008 ... at?1136300
Nicole can help us?
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Sorry, my mistake. I read that article before in hs.fi and don't read again so carefullyapple wrote: Jenni is there too organizing the party with Kimi.
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