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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 19:57  
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Julia wrote:
Mar wrote:
About the Red Bull story:

I have always found very weird that all those latest news about Red Bull not wanting to sponsor Räikkönen any longer don’t appear in the German speaking media.
There were some rumours some weeks ago about Red Bull not sponsoring him any longer because it was already decided that Kimi was going back to F1, the origin of that information should be Baumschlager.
Then came those comments from Marko and that’s all.
Nothing more in German.

This evening, Motorsport-total (they are a little bit boulevard like, but they are the guys Marko gave his “nice” statements about Räikkönen) have written an article about what Block has said about Atkinson and Kimi

http://www.motorsport-total.com/rallye/ ... 02108.html

Funnily enough they say:

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Sein bisheriger Sponsor Red Bull, der den Einsatz im Citroën-Junior-Team bezahlt, hätte durchaus Interesse, den "Iceman" weiter zu finanzieren - allerdings wohl kaum als Pilot im Team von Energydrink-Konkurrent Monster.


That’s something like (sorry it’s translating from my second to my third language, I’m not too good at it):

His sponsor up to the moment, Red Bull, that pays his efforts in Citroën Junior Team, would have real interest to further finance the Iceman- nevertheless, not really as driver in the team of the energy drink competitor Monster.

Ok, the people of Motorsport-total could be living in another world, but… :huh:


I have to say that in RB things i trust this boulevard paper more than the French ones or autosport who seems to ,yes, have asked Baumschlager (the source near RB) what he things of the thing :lol: and have to say that you are not the only one who things that the latest rumors and the sources has been a little bit strange...

My current (and motorsport-totals :O ) wild guess that the problem with Kimi and RB is that they this year spend totally 10 million (5 for the car and 5 salary, according to same boulevard earlier ) and they want to continue to have him as a RB driver because they recognize his value but they dont want to pay the same amount as this year (and payfor the whole party, when other are benefiting from him so much also) but just a couple of millions,half of the current amount, who knows but he have to find also other sponsors or maybe live without a salary but RB would pay for his car... if they would like to cut him off totally they have no need to negotiate and rumors are that they are/have been meeting but dont agree. But if Kimi chooses to go to Monster-ford they dont want to sponsor him anymore of course but if he would choose mini they could continue.

makes much more sense to me than the other stories that he would be cut off totally from RB sponsorship when you remember that he was 4 months ago still very,very good to their brand. They probably even argue with citroen how much the car costs because citroen have benefited probably more from Kimi than RB has and definitely more from having Kimi instead of a noname...

... after Kimis pressconference answers it sounds like the situation is definitely not so desperate than the media is giving it to be....


It makes sense :)
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 19:58  
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Wolfie wrote:
According to Heikki Kulta Kimi said this:

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– Maybe I have made the decision about my future by the time of the last race, Räikkönen said on Thursday.


&doh


did he interview Kimbi? or did he quote him from the autosport article? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:00  
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Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:
Wolfie wrote:
According to Heikki Kulta Kimi said this:

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– Maybe I have made the decision about my future by the time of the last race, Räikkönen said on Thursday.


&doh


did he interview Kimbi? or did he quote him from the autosport article? :)


Heikki is in Korea so it could have been taken from somewhere else - sorry, haven't been ready any news today :blush:

@Mar and everyone, thanks for your comments, insights, opinions and articles :hug:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:00  
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Julia wrote:
Mar wrote:
About the Red Bull story:

I have always found very weird that all those latest news about Red Bull not wanting to sponsor Räikkönen any longer don’t appear in the German speaking media.
There were some rumours some weeks ago about Red Bull not sponsoring him any longer because it was already decided that Kimi was going back to F1, the origin of that information should be Baumschlager.
Then came those comments from Marko and that’s all.
Nothing more in German.

This evening, Motorsport-total (they are a little bit boulevard like, but they are the guys Marko gave his “nice” statements about Räikkönen) have written an article about what Block has said about Atkinson and Kimi

http://www.motorsport-total.com/rallye/ ... 02108.html

Funnily enough they say:

Quote:
Sein bisheriger Sponsor Red Bull, der den Einsatz im Citroën-Junior-Team bezahlt, hätte durchaus Interesse, den "Iceman" weiter zu finanzieren - allerdings wohl kaum als Pilot im Team von Energydrink-Konkurrent Monster.


That’s something like (sorry it’s translating from my second to my third language, I’m not too good at it):

His sponsor up to the moment, Red Bull, that pays his efforts in Citroën Junior Team, would have real interest to further finance the Iceman- nevertheless, not really as driver in the team of the energy drink competitor Monster.

Ok, the people of Motorsport-total could be living in another world, but… :huh:


I have to say that in RB things i trust this boulevard paper more than the French ones or autosport who seems to ,yes, have asked Baumschlager (the source near RB) what he things of the thing :lol: and have to say that you are not the only one who things that the latest rumors and the sources has been a little bit strange...

My current (and motorsport-totals :O ) wild guess that the problem with Kimi and RB is that they this year spend totally 10 million (5 for the car and 5 salary, according to same boulevard earlier ) and they want to continue to have him as a RB driver because they recognize his value but they dont want to pay the same amount as this year (and payfor the whole party, when other are benefiting from him so much also) but just a couple of millions,half of the current amount, who knows but he have to find also other sponsors or maybe live without a salary but RB would pay for his car... if they would like to cut him off totally they have no need to negotiate and rumors are that they are/have been meeting but dont agree. But if Kimi chooses to go to Monster-ford they dont want to sponsor him anymore of course but if he would choose mini they could continue.

makes much more sense to me than the other stories that he would be cut off totally from RB sponsorship when you remember that he was 4 months ago still very,very good to their brand. They probably even argue with citroen how much the car costs because citroen have benefited probably more from Kimi than RB has and definitely more from having Kimi instead of a noname...

... after Kimis pressconference answers it sounds like the situation is definitely not so desperate than the media is giving it to be....


:pray: I hope that you´re right! though I don´t believe it in! There have been too many rumours about RB stopping to sponsor Kimi and to many voices that indicate that Kimi needs to find sponsors

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:00  
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Wolfie wrote:
According to Heikki Kulta Kimi said this:

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– Maybe I have made the decision about my future by the time of the last race, Räikkönen said on Thursday.


&doh


&doh

thank you, Wolfie :hug:
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:01  
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Wolfie wrote:
According to Heikki Kulta Kimi said this:

Quote:
– Maybe I have made the decision about my future by the time of the last race, Räikkönen said on Thursday.


&doh


I thought Kimi has said that he hoped he would have taken the decision by the end of the season.
As a matter of fact, the last rally is the same weekend as the Abu Dhabi race. ''hmm''

Did Kulta have a little “lapsus lingue” there? :zz:
What was he thinking about? :n
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:05  
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Mar wrote:
Wolfie wrote:
According to Heikki Kulta Kimi said this:

Quote:
– Maybe I have made the decision about my future by the time of the last race, Räikkönen said on Thursday.


&doh


I thought Kimi has said that he hoped he would have taken the decision by the end of the season.
As a matter of fact, the last rally is the same weekend as the Abu Dhabi race. ''hmm''

Did Kulta have a little “lapsus lingue” there? :zz:
What was he thinking about? :n


:lol:

Imagine if there is a huge bomb waiting, a bomb that can be released only after the season is over (RBR :pray: )

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:05  
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Wolfie wrote:
@Mar and everyone, thanks for your comments, insights, opinions and articles :hug:


You're very welcome :hug:
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:07  
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Wolfie wrote:
Mar wrote:
Wolfie wrote:
According to Heikki Kulta Kimi said this:

Quote:
– Maybe I have made the decision about my future by the time of the last race, Räikkönen said on Thursday.


&doh


I thought Kimi has said that he hoped he would have taken the decision by the end of the season.
As a matter of fact, the last rally is the same weekend as the Abu Dhabi race. ''hmm''

Did Kulta have a little “lapsus lingue” there? :zz:
What was he thinking about? :n


:lol:

Imagine if there is a huge bomb waiting, a bomb that can be released only after the season is over (RBR :pray: )


I really don’t believe in it, but maybe you should go to the silly-season thread and take a look to something I have posted a couple of hours ago. :O
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:09  
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we have a silly-season thread? kimi is one big silly season all by himself.

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Maria d wrote:
we have a silly-season thread? kimi is one big silly season all by himself.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: +1

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Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:
Maria d wrote:
we have a silly-season thread? kimi is one big silly season all by himself.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: +1

In two series :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:12  
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Maria d wrote:
we have a silly-season thread? kimi is one big silly season all by himself.


:lol: :lol: Totally true Maria!!!

Guys, I guess Kimi really wants to drives us crazy!!!! :p :blink:

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Moominpappa wrote:
Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:
Maria d wrote:
we have a silly-season thread? kimi is one big silly season all by himself.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: +1

In two series :thumbsup:

i didnt even think about that , your right in 2 series :lol:

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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2010, 20:18  
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Maria d wrote:
Moominpappa wrote:
Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:
Maria d wrote:
we have a silly-season thread? kimi is one big silly season all by himself.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: +1

In two series :thumbsup:

i didnt even think about that , your right in 2 series :lol:


shame that steve did deny the nascar rumours :n

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