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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 May 2010, 20:58  
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Thanks luieluv and Kinga!!!!! :hug:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 21 May 2010, 21:08  
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Thanks a lot Kinga..
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 22 May 2010, 02:42  
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Good old Heikki Kulta gives information about Vettel that he is not in shock after Webbers two victories but he knows he has to earn the number one driver status again, says Tommi Pärnäkoski,Vettels coach.
On the other hand Webbers managers are pushing to make a deal with RB right now as his stocks has gone up due to two victories.
Kimi Räikkönen hasnt even thought his future yet,says Heikki Kulta.
He hints to have been spoken with Steve Robertson who wasnt in Monaco but watched the race from TV.

Kimi said he would make a decision by the middle of the season. Red Bull would wait. The more Webber hurries Red Bull, the more Red Bull would want to wait. Remember Marko said that they don't have to go on knocking drivers' doors anymore. Webber would have to wait until the decision time.

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 22 May 2010, 03:28  
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 22 May 2010, 22:02  
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Thanks for all the new information (Kinga and Luie, the monaco-thing was great :))

And also interesting to read about the speculations...

I still think that it's not up to Marko either... this Dieter-guy seems like a guy who has everything in control and two races won't affect his decision one way or another if he has something else in mind ''hmm''

I'm also wondering why Kris Meeke has been testing Citroen's next year's car along with Ogier, Löeb and Sordo...

Here is a thing written by YLE's reporter Jukka Mildh, he has his own view about Red Bull:

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THE NEW F1-MIGHTY

5.4.2010
Jukka Mildh

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Red Bull's double victory in Malaysia is a clear sign. The new motorsport mighty is rising. It has been almost impossible to break the traditional teams that are built on stone. Especially for a long time. Now this is happening.

Red Bull isn't yet leading the championship serie but you can still say that it's the leading F1-team at the moment. The team is a unity that works best and it has brilliant drivers. It has a car that has been superior when it comes to speed. The car has been designed carefully. Even so carefully that the team had the guts to skip several testing days before the season started. They have found a technical solution to the car which makes it superior to other cars when it comes to drivability and setups. The solution isn't as overwhelming as last year's double diffuser but the team has found something to the suspension. Something that they keep very well hidden.

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In order to explain the reasons why Red Bull is the new F1-mighty, let's review the matter by painting a bigger picture.

Red Bull was built on the ruins of Jaguar. In practice the team has been developed with determination, in their own way and with a long-term plan from day one. Into their own direction.

Surprisingly they chose the former racer Christian Horner to run the team. I have to admit that at that time, five years ago, I didn't appreaciate Horner as a leader. He was leading Arden's GP-team and starting the F1-activity at the same time. Heikki Kovalainen drove back then for Arden in GP2 and the team made some weird decisions that for example suffocated the car's developmentwork. They were good in the beginning of the season and Kovalainen was leading the serie. Then all of a sudden everything stopped and Kovalainen's dreams of championship vanished at the same time.

Was this because of Horner's busy schedule or his way to act? Partly.

But I have to acknowledge today that the youngest team manager in F1 has done a good job. He has used the race budget well and got the right people to work for him in the right way. The most crucial choice of personnel was technical manager Adrian Newey who came to Red Bull from McLaren at the end of 2005.

Mark Webber declared after the race in front of the media in Malaysia that there is a good spirit inside the team. It's a significant thing in sporting and in companies. Also in F1 where these are one and the same.

You could sense the good spirit years ago. The feeling is lifted by the energy drink -company's attitude and modern grip to things. They do their jobs properly but quickly. Without forgetting the spark in the eye.

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Drivers Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel are like day and night as persons. It was clearly seen from their faces after Malaysia GP. Whereas Vettel had the strenght to smile after a tough race Webber again was serious almost the whole time.

There are different kinds of attitudes but in the long run taking things too seriously might turn against you. Webber is a stonehard sportsman and a fast driver but he shows too easily his disappointments and shows in this way to his team mate and to the outside world his weaknesses. Vettel calls Webber a poker face but the Australian can't necessarily keep his cards close enough to his chest.

Webber got frustrated back in the times in Williams. He thought he went as a king to a winning team only to find himself in the team's strong falling trend. Webber thought that his chances to win the championship were vanishing. That's why Red Bull's contract came as a gift from God. He got into an ambitious project which had enough money to use. There was more or less only one sponsor and that's why he had less PR-work. This enabled him to concentrate only on the most important; to drive and perform. This is rare in most F1-teams where the driver's calendar is filled outside the races.

Webber is now sitting in a winning car but he has got to put more than everything into the game. He didn't get the first driver's place and he has to fight against Sebastian Vettel who is 11 years younger than him.

The race between the drivers is extremely tough but it's taking the team forward. Of all the driver pairings at the moment Webber and Vettel are the most harmonic even though they are opposites to each other.

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Red Bull has chosen most of their drivers to their F1-program outside their own junior program. Helmut Marko, former F3-manager with a long line in motorsport and a debated person, often seen on the F1-paddock, he is in charge of the junior program's budget. His words is strong when it comes to choosing drivers to lower series but on F1-level decisions are made using different criterias. They include the team manager, the technical manager and of course the one who gives the blessing, the owner Dietrich Mateschitz.

One secret to success has been these wise driver choices. In the beginning they assumed that Red Bull would use especially their juniors since they have pumped millions of euros into them. F1 is yet a sport where youthful talent and eagerness isn't enough. The choices have to be made damn carefully and everything has to be taken into consideration.

You can now see the wisdom in hiring experienced drivers like David Coulthard and Mark Webber.

The wholeness is perfect. On top of Red Bull getting into the winners circle they also get to cash in the fruits which seamen they have planted with a big hand all over the world. Sebastian Vettel has practically raced during his whole racing career with Red Bull's money. In the meantime he has become a diamond. Vettel is only 22-years old and he is without doubt the fastest driver in F1 at the moment.

One shouldn't forget that he was 2nd in the championship serie last year!

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Red Bull has existed for only six years. And it's already as mighty as Ferrari who has been in F1 ever since the 50's. You see rarely a development curve like this, very rarely.

Teams come and go. They rise and fall down. Many try to create a similar success story but only very few new entrepreneurs succeed in it.

Owners, sponsors and partners should be committed to at least five years, even ten years at a time. In practice you don't have quarters like that these days. You also have to get a committed personnel and make them give their everything for a certain cause. The whole team has to be made attractive to the best possible drivers and top engineers.

You have to find the optimal solution.

What is it then?

Let's review Ferrari's pattern. Racing belongs to the car factory's culture. During good and bad financial times the participation to F1 wasn't even questioned. Never.

The team has significant partners but all the decisions are made in Maranello and only in Maranello. Other teams feel the draft coming from many directions. You start giving too much power to significant partners so that they will stay with you.

Ferrari is one of the world's leading and most known brands. It attracts partners and strenghtens more than before Ferrari management's power to run the team's racing activity freely. Partners need Ferrari more than Ferrari needs them.

Ferrari's bosses have always been worshipped persons. Ferrari's culture is so mighty that the team's victories even get the church bells ringing. The Black Stallion is the symbol of victory and success.

Red Bull has as a company aswell as a team a short history and a young culture compared to Ferrari. But the pattern is similar.

I don't think it's a sacrilege to compare Enzo Ferrari and Dieter Mateschitz. Each success story requires a strong, initiative and idealistic person.

A Finnish top boss told me once about his experience when meeting Dieter Mateschitz for the first time in Red Bull headquarters in Austria. "When he stepped into the room through high doors made of oak his charisma filled the whole room."

Enzo Ferrari had the same affect on people.

Everybody wants to be dealing with Red Bull and Mateschitz. Red Bull is a tough brand and Mateschitz is a great boss, success personified. On top of that he has one significant limitating factor compared to other team owners. Mateschitz's own economy is in no way depending on the success of his F1-team.

Red Bull's quality is top class, no matter what the company does. It has conquered their own markets and F1-tracks quickly but convincingly. Soon we can even start talking about permanence.

I have made my own conclusions of a success pattern. The solution is in all it's simplicity that the main sponsor and the owner have to be the one and the same. You have to swear to only one name.

The Black Stallion has been the genre's leading figure throughout it's whole history.

And now it has got a threat on it's premises.

The Red Bull.

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 12:09  
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Webber and Red Bull seems to bee negotiating through the press...

WEBBER NOT RULING OUT MOVING TEAMS:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83818
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PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 12:19  
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here's a tweet from Byronf1

Mark Webber's name increasingly linked with Ferrari. Hardly surprising.
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 14:58  
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Actually I'm rather surprised Ferrari would consider MW as I feel his personality does not suit the prancing horse's - just like Kimi and also RK...I dunno, just my gut telling me so. Ferrari team boss seems to like the hot blooded latin kind of character so they may just give their cute third driver another go rather than MW :huh:

I think if ART gets a spot, Massa would move there for obvious reasons... just my 2 cents :wave:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 16:46  
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I think it's way too early to draw any conclusions from the media speculations right now... Webber has won 2 races in a row and it's kinda ridiculous to think that 2 victories changes everything and Webber is the hottest driver in F1 right now. I don't think Red Bull is in no hurry to make a contract with him at this point... but let's wait until later... I think Webber should prove he can be more consistent when it comes to top results.

Thanks Anne for the TS recap. I also believe that Kimi must have thought about his future already but hasn't done any decisions yet (or can't make any decisions yet because there is also another party involved)....... However, I think we will have to suffer for a looooooong time until we hear any decisions from Kimi :zz: :zz: :zz:

enjoy the ride :wave:
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PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 17:22  
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Julia wrote:
Webber and Red Bull seems to bee negotiating through the press...

WEBBER NOT RULING OUT MOVING TEAMS:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83818


Julia, welcome :hug:

Like I said to Maria, please share your opinions too - we are really nice people once you get to know us - crazy at times but nice :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 17:24  
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Leijona wrote:
I think it's way too early to draw any conclusions from the media speculations right now... Webber has won 2 races in a row and it's kinda ridiculous to think that 2 victories changes everything and Webber is the hottest driver in F1 right now. I don't think Red Bull is in no hurry to make a contract with him at this point... but let's wait until later... I think Webber should prove he can be more consistent when it comes to top results.

Thanks Anne for the TS recap. I also believe that Kimi must have thought about his future already but hasn't done any decisions yet (or can't make any decisions yet because there is also another party involved)....... However, I think we will have to suffer for a looooooong time until we hear any decisions from Kimi :zz: :zz: :zz:

enjoy the ride :wave:


The time for his decision is coming closer and closer...

Would it be wise/fun to make a poll before that to see how well we read all the rumours, news, expressions, tone of voices etc.... :n

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
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Wolfie wrote:

Like I said to Maria, please share your opinions too - we are really nice people once you get to know us - crazy at times but nice :lol:


We are really nice and really crazy :lol:

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I wonder why Webber would come out and say he wouldn't rule out going to another team. If he is so wanted by Red Bull he would not give statements like that. Seems like Red Bull is not all set to sign Webber after all! :n

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PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 21:15  
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Kimi will be in a F1 Red Bull car in 2011, its like last year when Kimi knew he was not coming back but said nothing, Mark knows to, if Red Bull wanted to sign him for next year the perfect time was after he won. Like KImi winning spa they said it did nothing for his seat in 2010.OK this is what i wish will happen, but if it does not happen i will continue to learn more about rally.

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PostPosted: 23 May 2010, 21:31  
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SpaMaster wrote:
I wonder why Webber would come out and say he wouldn't rule out going to another team. If he is so wanted by Red Bull he would not give statements like that. Seems like Red Bull is not all set to sign Webber after all! :n

+1 Hope you're right :thumbsup:
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