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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 12:11  
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kracer wrote:
Sorry but when did Marko say he wasn't happy about Kimi's performance?

Have been away for awhile and am now trying to catch up :confused:


I think this was the original article in german:
http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/2010/09/Raeikkoenen_bestaetigt_Anfrage_bei_Renault_10091607.html

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"Is to publicity not yet reached us much as we expected, but it is also related to the fact that Raikkonen relatively frequent accidents builds and the results have failed," said Red Bull's motorsport consultant Helmut Marko against 'Motorsports total. com '. "Very satisfied" he was with Sébastien Loeb and Sébastien Ogier, the project functioned only with Raikkonen wins: "If the athletic success is there, then the advertising effect is the same there. This goes hand in hand."

Whether the Red Bull Rallye career will fund the Finnish superstars continue is yet uncertain: "Right now even has the formula one priority," explains Marko. Only when there improvement of the situation in the title fight, they would think about how to set up in all other categories.
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 13:40  
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sleenster: I think we are getting into too much technicalities. :p What I meant was the Junior team is mainly funded/sponsored by Red Bull. The control it has as a result, one could say it is Red Bull team.

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 14:09  
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Thanks, sleenster!
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 15:45  
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sleenster: I think we are getting into too much technicalities. :p What I meant was the Junior team is mainly funded/sponsored by Red Bull. The control it has as a result, one could say it is Red Bull team.

Hehe :blush:
I am quite a technical person. :lol: :hug:
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 15:58  
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On the whole, considering negotiations, contracts, sponsorship deals, money, and all the other zillion factors that play into racer placement, we can't even begin to speculate on what any one comment by any individual means. It is all a big game they are playing with one another and trying to make heads or tails of it will only get you a headache - and generally no closer to figuring anything out at all.

There are no truths or 1/2 truths, there are only tantalising statements. I make a habit of ignoring them. Every now and then one will get me, but generally only for a couple of hours before I remember it is all a bunch of grandstanding and message relaying to unknown parties about unknown things.

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 16:02  
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On the whole, considering negotiations, contracts, sponsorship deals, money, and all the other zillion factors that play into racer placement, we can't even begin to speculate on what any one comment by any individual means. It is all a big game they are playing with one another and trying to make heads or tails of it will only get you a headache - and generally no closer to figuring anything out at all.

There are no truths or 1/2 truths, there are only tantalising statements. I make a habit of ignoring them. Every now and then one will get me, but generally only for a couple of hours before I remember it is all a bunch of grandstanding and message relaying to unknown parties about unknown things.

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i went back and started reading the first few pages of this thread, and 150 pages later we still know nothing :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 16:32  
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Maria d wrote:

i went back and started reading the first few pages of this thread, and 150 pages later we still know nothing :lol:


we are going to have 150 pages more and still know nothing :zz:
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 16:36  
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Kriss wrote:
Maria d wrote:

i went back and started reading the first few pages of this thread, and 150 pages later we still know nothing :lol:


we are going to have 150 pages more and still know nothing :zz:

i know, we just cant control ourselves :lol:
kimi is driving us mad :huh:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 18 Sep 2010, 16:38  
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Maria d wrote:
Kriss wrote:
Maria d wrote:

i went back and started reading the first few pages of this thread, and 150 pages later we still know nothing :lol:


we are going to have 150 pages more and still know nothing :zz:

i know, we just cant control ourselves :lol:
kimi is driving us mad :huh:


yeah, but every year is way too much for my nerves :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 19 Sep 2010, 04:15  
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What I find ridiculous is the kind of headline for the Renault article on Autosport.
"Commercial side key to Raikkonen's fate"
Fate? The word 'fate' is not even mentioned by Lopez. I have seen Jonathan Noble create sensationalistic articles like this over the years.

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2010, 09:31  
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Raikkonen's Renault interest 'flattering' - Boullier

Kimi Raikkonen's interest in driving for Renault next year is "flattering", team boss Eric Boullier has admitted.

2007 world champion Raikkonen's manager last week confirmed reports the pair had spoken with Boullier about the vacant 2011 seat alongside Robert Kubica.

The 30-year-old Finn switched to world rallying this year after winning 18 grands prix with Ferrari and McLaren last decade.

"It's flattering," Boullier said in a French language report of the Agence France-Presse agency, "because it shows that our team is again attractive to a Formula One world champion."

After Fernando Alonso's titles in 2005 and 2006, Renault entered a period of decline that resulted in the French carmaker selling to Luxembourg based Genii Capital at the end of last year.

"Our simulations show that our car has improved by about 1 and 3/4 seconds between the first test and now. We have been one of the teams with the greatest progressions.

"That is a true source of satisfaction," admitted Boullier. "We have proved the team has the qualities to operate at the highest level."

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article. ... 7732&FS=F1

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2010, 09:36  
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"Our simulations show that our car has improved by about 1 and 3/4 seconds between the first test and now. We have been one of the teams with the greatest progressions.


"That is a true source of satisfaction," admitted Boullier. "We have proved the team has the qualities to operate at the highest level."

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article. ... 7732&FS=F1

This is just normal, when the best car's improver left Renault and moved to Ferrari :zz:

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2010, 10:19  
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Raikkonen's Renault interest 'flattering' - Boullier

Kimi Raikkonen's interest in driving for Renault next year is "flattering", team boss Eric Boullier has admitted.

2007 world champion Raikkonen's manager last week confirmed reports the pair had spoken with Boullier about the vacant 2011 seat alongside Robert Kubica.

The 30-year-old Finn switched to world rallying this year after winning 18 grands prix with Ferrari and McLaren last decade.

"It's flattering," Boullier said in a French language report of the Agence France-Presse agency, "because it shows that our team is again attractive to a Formula One world champion."

After Fernando Alonso's titles in 2005 and 2006, Renault entered a period of decline that resulted in the French carmaker selling to Luxembourg based Genii Capital at the end of last year.

"Our simulations show that our car has improved by about 1 and 3/4 seconds between the first test and now. We have been one of the teams with the greatest progressions.

"That is a true source of satisfaction," admitted Boullier. "We have proved the team has the qualities to operate at the highest level."

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article. ... 7732&FS=F1


Finally an artickle and headline that says the truth. "It's flattering," Boullier said in a French language report of the Agence France-Presse agency, "because it shows that our team is again attractive to a Formula One world champion."
Kimi's supposed interest in itself has a value to any team. Especially to one that after hitting rock bottom (with the bigges team builder on board - how ironic) try to raise their game again.

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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2010, 11:12  
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The Renault Big boss thoughts about drivers role in promoting the sport... thought it is a part of speculation if Kimi would choose Renault in front of a rallydrive...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86835

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F1 urged to promote itself better

By Jonathan Noble Monday, September 20th 2010, 09:27 GMT

F1 urged to improve self-promotionFormula 1 must be bold and make a big push to promote itself better - something which includes embracing the Internet and getting drivers closer to the fans - if it is to boost revenues and take its success to a higher level in the next few years.

That is the view of Renault F1 chairman Gerard Lopez, who agrees with recent suggestions from McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh that the sport had 'badly managed' itself in promoting itself to a wider audience.

Lopez has good experience of the wider business world, and especially new technology enterprise, and reckons that F1 will have to make big changes to the way it approaches fans.

"Formula 1 does need to promote itself better as it is a global sport," Lopez told AUTOSPORT. "It probably also needs to monetise better, which is a different thing. Promoting means putting money into something and hoping you get known, monetising means making money.

"As far as we're concerned, we're looking at a situation whereby F1 needs to add other offers to its package, and Bernie Ecclestone will be looking at it for sure.

"The future of the sport is an evolution in terms of adding additional media channels and increasing revenue to the sport. The future of the sport is also the new geography it's trying to go to. To do a better job acquiring audience in these new geographies, we all know what it takes to do that - which is having a successful driver from these places."

Lopez believes the sport has to change from the inside too - and he reckons that even goes down to the very way that the drivers interact with the fans on a day-to-day basis at grand prix weekends.

"It's very easy to criticise F1 as a sport and be detached, but we [Renault] push our drivers to walk without guards and so on, one kilometre down to the cars.

"Why? Because we think it's a good thing and nobody's going to kill them. Nobody's going to rob them. At the most, people are going to touch them. That's not the end of the world, right? Being over-protective of the drivers is kind of a first measure of not being close to your fans.

"And also, the drivers enjoy it. They actually enjoy it, unless you tell them that it's not the right thing. Vitaly [Petrov] and Robert [Kubica] will sign autographs for an hour, and those are little things where you tell yourself that even we as teams need to do a better job. And sometimes a better job at doing nothing - which means not over-policing it."

He added: "Look at it, it's F1. The paddock is 200 metres times 50 metres, and most of the F1 people think that's the centre of the universe, when it's not. So I think we would gain from just being more relaxed about certain things.

"I see drivers when they come from GP2 and they're all star struck, and they're more than happy to be recognised, okay? Spend two or three years in F1 and they get into this mental behaviour like it's not okay, that it's wasting time. Come on! You've got a couple of hours of racing and a couple of hours of debrief. They could spend some more time with the fans."

Lopez believes the biggest failure the sport has made in recent years has been in not embracing the Internet - and he fears F1 could make the same error as the music industry if it hesitates too long in working out how best to utilise the web.

"I think F1 has done a very good job, and I'll be killed for saying this, at not doing anything with the Internet so far, and waiting for it," he said

"You can do it the wrong way, like the music industry, where you don't do anything at the beginning, and then you do something that is half-baked, and then you find that you're in a troublesome situation.

"Bernie has waited for the market to mature, and nobody can criticise F1 in terms of security - it has been a very protected model - so now is the right time to act.

"F1 does not need to be more famous, but needs to do a better job at monetising itself outside of television rights and so on."

Although Ecclestone does have restrictions in terms of what he can do with live broadcasting of F1 on the Internet, because of television contracts he has in various countries, Lopez believes there are many other avenues on the Internet that can be pursued that would raise good finance for the sport.

"There is all the historic video content for example - and people would pay," he said. "I would, for example, love to really look at the Ayrton Senna/Alain Prost Suzuka accident, and I would pay to have monthly access to any race I wanted to watch.

"We know that all the races, including all the black and white ones, are now digitised, so there's a huge amount of historic content that you can sell. Then there's all the betting sites, and not just the high-end betting, also the fun betting. You can have mobile betting, at the tracks, outside of the tracks - and full betting at the office, so all these different money games.

"Then there is gaming. Technology is coming out now for real-time gaming, so you can start the race on Sunday at 2pm and be part of the race."

He added: "There are so many areas that can be developed. Obviously you need not the will to develop, because that at the end is something that Bernie has, but you have to have a sport where the teams themselves don't just criticise but make proposals. I think our role as teams is to not just voice criticism, which might be warranted, but also voice ideas."
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 Post subject: Re: Speculation-thread: Will Kimi be in WRC or F1 next seaso
PostPosted: 20 Sep 2010, 11:12  
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maybe the robertson have contacted renault and tell them not to talk nonsense :)
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