Kimi to F1.....SpaMaster wrote:"If the right offer comes through in F1.."?? Why not rule out F1 for next year? Wait, the Robertsons did rule out F1 for next year. But they are still ready to listen to right offers? I have no idea what they are up to.
what would that right offer be? a contract were Kimi only has to drive and nothing else and can do rallies too? that will not happen. to me it seems Robertson doesn't want to close the door but anyway Kimi already did. he said he didn't think about it, doesn't miss F1 and wants to keep on rallying. what more does he have to say?brendakarli wrote:I am quite miffed with the "no contact with F1 but we keep the door open" nonsense now. The fact is he is in contact with one team, RB. They have offered him a seat this year and I am sure DM still kept the door open for him to come back next year, so he continues to give kimi a personal sposnorship.
I think Kimi himself is contemplating how bad it would look to swoop in on webber's seat bcos of what happened to himself at ferrari, that may be why he said "no contact but if an available but decent seat came along, then he may consider" ...I dunno, and I wonder why vettel had to do two days of testing and mark didn't even do one?
Also, Kimi seems to be hinting that he hasn't got any big enough sponsorships in rally, hence the lack of a firm contract. And maybe selling the F3 stake can fund his adventure one more year while waiting for webber to retire. but by then, the tires will be new to him and having been out of F1 for 2 years would spark the 'he shouldn;t have come back like schummy' talk again if he can't learn up his f1 tricks quick enough. urgh, this man is driving me nuts!
I agree with you and with Lui!miezicat wrote:what would that right offer be? a contract were Kimi only has to drive and nothing else and can do rallies too? that will not happen. to me it seems Robertson doesn't want to close the door but anyway Kimi already did. he said he didn't think about it, doesn't miss F1 and wants to keep on rallying. what more does he have to say?brendakarli wrote:I am quite miffed with the "no contact with F1 but we keep the door open" nonsense now. The fact is he is in contact with one team, RB. They have offered him a seat this year and I am sure DM still kept the door open for him to come back next year, so he continues to give kimi a personal sposnorship.
I think Kimi himself is contemplating how bad it would look to swoop in on webber's seat bcos of what happened to himself at ferrari, that may be why he said "no contact but if an available but decent seat came along, then he may consider" ...I dunno, and I wonder why vettel had to do two days of testing and mark didn't even do one?
Also, Kimi seems to be hinting that he hasn't got any big enough sponsorships in rally, hence the lack of a firm contract. And maybe selling the F3 stake can fund his adventure one more year while waiting for webber to retire. but by then, the tires will be new to him and having been out of F1 for 2 years would spark the 'he shouldn;t have come back like schummy' talk again if he can't learn up his f1 tricks quick enough. urgh, this man is driving me nuts!
. At least doesn´t give his fans (who want him back at F1) false hopes.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=395588European drivers struggling for F1 seats - Klien
F1's globalisation has made it harder for drivers from the sport's traditional markets to find places on the grid.
That is the claim of Austrian Christian Klien, who raced a few times with the struggling new team HRT in 2010 and is hoping for a full season next year.
But with pay-drivers now wielding more power than in the recent past, Klien admitted the task is tough.
"Nico Hulkenberg's case shows that there are no guarantees," he is quoted by Vorarlberg Online.
"He had a great debut year with a pole position in Brazil, and he's out," said Klien.
"In my own case, I have some options," he revealed.
"The most obvious one of course is HRT, who are on the verge of establishing themselves as a serious competitor, even if there are some setbacks from time to time.
"In February there was not much of a team and I would not have believed I would contest three grands prix this year. And there's still some time until March (2011)," added Klien.
He thinks part of his difficulty in establishing a strong full-time return to F1 is geographic.
"It is pretty hard when you are from central Europe," said Klien, 27.
"F1 has internationalised very quickly and previously as a Briton, an Italian, a Frenchman, you had a good chance," said the Austrian.
"Today there are more cockpits from before, but the driver market is being fed from many more countries; Russia, India, the southeast Asian region, and now probably Korea and China.
"And if you're the eighth German, then it is very difficult. Look at France and Italy -- 20 years ago there were ten of each. And today?"
The other problem is the economic climate, and the power wielded by drivers who carry substantial commercial backing.
"Even a big name like Kimi Raikkonen in the world rally championship is relying on sponsors to get his cockpit," said Klien.
"And in F1 the teams are under enormous cost pressure," he added.
Well, that's not a surprise for me. He wouldn't rely on sponsors in F1 but in rally I think it's quite normal that he has to pay for a seat in a top WRC car. He doesn't have the result to get a cockpit for free. He jumped in a top car as a rookie of course someone has to pay for it"Even a big name like Kimi Raikkonen in the world rally championship is relying on sponsors to get his cockpit," said Klien.
I think Klien is soothing himself for probably not finding sponsors for his own race seat. Kimi Raikkonen is just the medium used by klien to make him self and his talent be appreciated amongst the pay drivers who are vying for the same seat.Kriss wrote:Well, that's not a surprise for me. He wouldn't rely on sponsors in F1 but in rally I think it's quite normal that he has to pay for a seat in a top WRC car. He doesn't have the result to get a cockpit for free. He jumped in a top car as a rookie of course someone has to pay for it"Even a big name like Kimi Raikkonen in the world rally championship is relying on sponsors to get his cockpit," said Klien.
icemaid,icemaid wrote:Kimi doesn't want to go back to F1.
His manager just like some of us (his fans) is hoping against hope he he may return.
Wake up Robertson! Wake up icemaid!
Hit the nail right on head. He shouldn't even be comparing himself to Hulkenberg, let alone Kimi.luieluv wrote:I think Klien is soothing himself for probably not finding sponsors for his own race seat. Kimi Raikkonen is just the medium used by klien to make him self and his talent be appreciated amongst the pay drivers who are vying for the same seat.Kriss wrote:Well, that's not a surprise for me. He wouldn't rely on sponsors in F1 but in rally I think it's quite normal that he has to pay for a seat in a top WRC car. He doesn't have the result to get a cockpit for free. He jumped in a top car as a rookie of course someone has to pay for it"Even a big name like Kimi Raikkonen in the world rally championship is relying on sponsors to get his cockpit," said Klien.
As managers they have to keep the door open. It's in their interests to not shut such a big possible meal ticket. They are just doing their due dillegence here.SpaMaster wrote:It is clear that Kimi has said 'no' to F1 for all practical purposes. I was just wondering why the Robertsons are going back and forth on their statements. Few weeks earlier they issued a press release saying that Kimi won't be coming to F1 next year. Now they say "If the right offer comes along". May be they are saying the latter as the usual blah, blah, but they seem to have forgotten ruling out F1 earlier.
is he comparing himself? he just says how it is. and I don't know if they are still but when Klien was driving in F1 regularly they were friends so that's probably why he mentioned Kimi.SpaMaster wrote:Hit the nail right on head. He shouldn't even be comparing himself to Hulkenberg, let alone Kimi.luieluv wrote:I think Klien is soothing himself for probably not finding sponsors for his own race seat. Kimi Raikkonen is just the medium used by klien to make him self and his talent be appreciated amongst the pay drivers who are vying for the same seat.Kriss wrote:Well, that's not a surprise for me. He wouldn't rely on sponsors in F1 but in rally I think it's quite normal that he has to pay for a seat in a top WRC car. He doesn't have the result to get a cockpit for free. He jumped in a top car as a rookie of course someone has to pay for it"Even a big name like Kimi Raikkonen in the world rally championship is relying on sponsors to get his cockpit," said Klien.
Yeah, but they already pretty much shut the door on F1 for next year by their earlier press release.redstorm wrote:As managers they have to keep the door open. It's in their interests to not shut such a big possible meal ticket. They are just doing their due dillegence here.SpaMaster wrote:It is clear that Kimi has said 'no' to F1 for all practical purposes. I was just wondering why the Robertsons are going back and forth on their statements. Few weeks earlier they issued a press release saying that Kimi won't be coming to F1 next year. Now they say "If the right offer comes along". May be they are saying the latter as the usual blah, blah, but they seem to have forgotten ruling out F1 earlier.
http://www.wrc.com/news/four-citroen-ds ... ?fid=13967We have a lot of demand but we would prefer to have the drivers with the budget who are also very fast,” said Quesnel. “We would be very pleased with Kimi and Petter and I think they would have the priority but in the end we will see. Last year, at this time, we didn’t have any customer so I am not worried. We will just have to wait but I am sure we will have two cars in the second team, even though it is quite complicated.
