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Re: Rally News

Post by beefree88 » 07 Jan 2012, 12:20

Mar wrote:Crisis on-going at the present minute in the WRC.

It seems the FIA has taken the rights management from NOS, or the Qataries have gone away... Not clear yet, it all has happened today.

It seems, some of the guys who prepared the TV highlights have already received this evening an e-mail from NOS telling them, they just lost their jobs (my best whishes for Julian Porter and all the unknown cameramen, etc).

Rumours is that Eurosport will get the rights' management (not the rights per se), at least in Monte Carlo and Sweden, but it is not confirmed yet.

I like the idea of Eurosport. But I hope they employ at least some of the guys who lost their jobs today.
It's sad, that Porter and othrs lost their job. I hope at least something good comes out of it. WRC needs better coverage. Some kind of merging with IRC, or at least a deal with Eurosport could help
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Re: Rally News

Post by luieluv » 07 Jan 2012, 13:27

beefree88 wrote:
Mar wrote:Crisis on-going at the present minute in the WRC.

It seems the FIA has taken the rights management from NOS, or the Qataries have gone away... Not clear yet, it all has happened today.

It seems, some of the guys who prepared the TV highlights have already received this evening an e-mail from NOS telling them, they just lost their jobs (my best whishes for Julian Porter and all the unknown cameramen, etc).

Rumours is that Eurosport will get the rights' management (not the rights per se), at least in Monte Carlo and Sweden, but it is not confirmed yet.

I like the idea of Eurosport. But I hope they employ at least some of the guys who lost their jobs today.
It's sad, that Porter and othrs lost their job. I hope at least something good comes out of it. WRC needs better coverage. Some kind of merging with IRC, or at least a deal with Eurosport could help
Honestly i am not at all impressed that rights from NOS has been snatched away. They were in a trial and error stage last season. Its so damn unfair. They could have done so much more this season and in following seasons i am sure the desired coverage requirement would have been met.

And as it is IIRC there wont be any live coverage for monte rally. Shame. So whats the point of ropingg in eurosport if monte rally wont be in their coverage.
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season

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Re: Rally News

Post by Mar » 07 Jan 2012, 14:59

luieluv wrote:
beefree88 wrote:
Mar wrote:Crisis on-going at the present minute in the WRC.

It seems the FIA has taken the rights management from NOS, or the Qataries have gone away... Not clear yet, it all has happened today.

It seems, some of the guys who prepared the TV highlights have already received this evening an e-mail from NOS telling them, they just lost their jobs (my best whishes for Julian Porter and all the unknown cameramen, etc).

Rumours is that Eurosport will get the rights' management (not the rights per se), at least in Monte Carlo and Sweden, but it is not confirmed yet.

I like the idea of Eurosport. But I hope they employ at least some of the guys who lost their jobs today.
It's sad, that Porter and othrs lost their job. I hope at least something good comes out of it. WRC needs better coverage. Some kind of merging with IRC, or at least a deal with Eurosport could help
Honestly i am not at all impressed that rights from NOS has been snatched away. They were in a trial and error stage last season. Its so damn unfair. They could have done so much more this season and in following seasons i am sure the desired coverage requirement would have been met.

And as it is IIRC there wont be any live coverage for monte rally. Shame. So whats the point of ropingg in eurosport if monte rally wont be in their coverage.
I think one of the problems here was if NOS would have been able to broadcast anything at all this year, or not. After Antonov was arrested, CSI was taken under administration, and NOS is part of CSI. If I understood it correctly (the information is still confusing), once Antonov was arrested, the money that was going to be used to promote and broadcast the WRC this year was gone (or could not be found anywhere) and NOS needed somebody else to bring the money. They found an investment bank from Qatar but something has gone wrong (rumours is that the FIA said thanks but no thanks).

I wonder if the problem with the newly found money could be the public administration situation of CSI. What if the Lithuanians say the money coming from Qatar should go to them to compensate for the money that is supposed to have disappeared?

Eurosport has live covered the Monte Carlo the last few years and they did a great job. Last year's show was simply epic (the weather helped). They have also been showing the rest of the IRC and the WRC for years, they have experience and should be able to do it very well. The problem is that there is only one week left and nobody knows what happens with the rights. Eurosport can prepare the TV-shows and provide the right holders with then, BUT what happens with the TV stations who have the rights? they signed their contracts with NOS, those contracts shouldn't be valid any longer :confused:

It seems the timings are also a problem. The guys taking care of the timings and the car-tracking (very important for the safety) had their contract with NOS and they say they have not managed to get an answer from the FIA about their situation. They don't know if they have to take care of the timing in the Monte Carlo or not, and they have to send the trucks with the material on Monday evening or it won't be on time.

Where on earth is the FIA?! :<>:

Oh! and to make the situation even better, there is no official entry list for the Monte Carlo yet because of the mess around Mini. They have not managed to solve the situation yet, even if they are trying to find a solution where Mini doesn't really comply with the rules (Kimi!!!!!! ask for your money back, if Mini doesn't need to follow all the rules, neither you do!!!!). The thing is that if Mini doesn't enter the championship with the official backing of a manufacturer, the privateers driving Minis can't either.

EDIT: corrected the information about Mini

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Re: Rally News

Post by Mar » 07 Jan 2012, 19:03

The article published yesterday evening in iRally, where one of the NOS guys accused the FIA of causing the deal with the Qataries to fail, has now disappeared :huh:

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Re: Rally News

Post by sleenster » 08 Jan 2012, 02:22

What a shame really for the guys who lost their jobs :(
Eurosport set to become World Rally Championship promoter as North One's Qatar deal falls through

The loss of the potential investor will cost around 40 full-time jobs and a further 20 on-event freelance staff in the world championship. North One Sport is expected to be closed as of Monday.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96911

It really does not seem at this point like the FIA cares what happens to the WRC.

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Re: Rally News

Post by luieluv » 08 Jan 2012, 06:27

yes really a shame.
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season

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Re: Rally News

Post by Suomileijona » 08 Jan 2012, 13:13

I agree. :( :<>:


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Re: Rally News

Post by Mar » 08 Jan 2012, 21:55

At least the FIA said something.

They are running out of time and will have to work very fast.

As silly as it sounds, the main problem at the moment is not the TV, by far. Now, the most urgent things are all those little logistical issues, necessary to have an event running, that depended on NOS. I suppose the most urgent thing will be to decide who takes care of the timings and tracking systems.

Luckily for the championship, the first rally of the season is the Monte Carlo. The organizers have so much experience organizing it well, Eurosport has so much experience broadcasting it, and the teams and drivers are so interested in it no matter if it's part of the WRC or not... that, well, if you are going to face a problem like this, it is probably the best rally if you want to come out successful and in one piece out of the problem.

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Re: Rally News

Post by luieluv » 09 Jan 2012, 09:37

@planetemarcus Please RT iRally reports Timing and Safety Tracking confirmed for Monte Carlo on.fb.me/fc1u8r
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season

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Re: Rally News

Post by Mar » 09 Jan 2012, 11:03

Those are very good news :)

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Re: Rally News

Post by sleenster » 09 Jan 2012, 16:47

Well Eurosport has been the series promoter for IRC so they should be able to do the same job for WRC. Hopefully they will be able to absorb some of the jobs lost at NOS though.

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Re: Rally News

Post by luieluv » 10 Jan 2012, 12:34

A tweet from Andrew_Coley Andrew Coley
Massive story breaking on iRally re. NOS trying to block use of WRC timing equipment. Messy, won't win any sympathy. Please put sport 1st
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season

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Re: Rally News

Post by luieluv » 10 Jan 2012, 12:36

it may turn ugly.
FIA actually is a bad management unit
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Re: Rally News

Post by Mar » 10 Jan 2012, 12:50

luieluv wrote:it may turn ugly.
FIA actually is a bad management unit
May I disagree? :)
I think it's the other way around. I think, for once, there are people caring about rallying in the FIA. Todt, Mouton and Mahonen... 3 strong characters coming from rallying.

The guys of NOS owed over a million pounds to the poor guys doing the timings and now they try to screw them not letting them use the devices? :blink: That's bad blood.

What I was hearing before the FIA terminated the contract is that NOS didn't have cash to organize the championship this season. Had not the FIA jumped in, there would have not been championship because there was no money. And knowing now that they already owed a million to the timing guys, I'm afraid the rumours were right. :(

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