I have to confess that I was not sure whether I liked it too when I heard this idea because well, it sounded a bit gimmicky to me.Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:I read that they already once tried that out but it didn´t work! Well dunno whether I like this idea or not
+1Julia wrote:did they say why it didn't work out last time?? was it on some forum or news?Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:I read that they already once tried that out but it didn´t work! Well dunno whether I like this idea or not
Have to confess that I sometimes pop in on the rallyforums but "traditional rally fans" seem to bee quite negative and skeptical to almost everything new (... and current way of doing things) so I have started to take the comments on those forums with a pinch of salt... I just go to them to find news
sorry for my little outburst ...
read this at the autosport forumJulia wrote:did they say why it didn't work out last time?? was it on some forum or news?Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:I read that they already once tried that out but it didn´t work! Well dunno whether I like this idea or not
Have to confess that I sometimes pop in on the rallyforums but "traditional rally fans" seem to bee quite negative and skeptical to almost everything new (... and current way of doing things) so I have started to take the comments on those forums with a pinch of salt... I just go to them to find news
sorry for my little outburst ...
here from the forum (bleu) how it workt last time:Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:read this at the autosport forumJulia wrote:did they say why it didn't work out last time?? was it on some forum or news?Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:I read that they already once tried that out but it didn´t work! Well dunno whether I like this idea or not
so maybe reconsidering the rules a little bit ...1999 they had two races (Corsica, Finland) with final stage giving points. 3-2-1 for top three finishers. That time it meant that winning one stage was worth the same as fourth place in whole race. Also, retired factory drivers were allowed in, so in Finland Auriol was withdrawn from the race early in the Sunday morning (he was somewhere far away from the points) so they could put his car in better condition for the final stage, which he then won. He won the first one as well, Tommi Mäkinen was second in both.
they where thinking of giving 5 points to the winner of the stage to motivate them to try to catch those points and with this years point system the eight gets 4 points and the pointgap between the winner and second is 7 points, so it sounds reasonable. But I think the big problem last time was the rule that everybody could compete and that somebody whit draws himself from the race to put the car in shape and win the ss... so maybe only for them who is jet in the race?Moominpappa wrote:When point system is changed, some points could give more easier than last time. Now three points are less equal for top drivers but could give more trying and pace to last stage.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86469WRC adds bonus points for TV stages
By Matt Beer Wednesday, September 8th 2010, 12:57 GMT
Each round of the 2011 World Rally Championship will offer bonus points for the three fastest drivers on a single televised stage, the FIA has announced.
In a new measure agreed at today's World Motor Sport Council meeting, the top three on the selected stage with receive three, two and one additional points respectively.
"Commencing 2011 each World Rally Championship (WRC) event must include one special stage on the final day for the purpose of enhancing television coverage," said an FIA statement.
"The fastest drivers and co-drivers will be awarded additional points (3-2-1) in accordance with the general classification of this stage."
A similar system was previously tried in 1999, when several rallies awarded bonus points for a live TV stage.
In other WRC changes agreed by the WMSC, next year cars will take to stages just one minute apart rather than the two or three minute gaps currently used for the WRC field, and top teams will only be allowed to use two engines per car from round five of the 2011 championship onwards.
The FIA has also announced the creation of a two-wheel-drive category with the Production class, that it will look into adding GT cars to WRC events, and that a new young driver academy programme will be created.
+1luieluv wrote:This is really a brilliant concept
http://www.rallybuzz.com/wrc-wmsc-september-2010/WRC: World Motor Sport Council decisions
At an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council in Paris on 8 September 2010, the following decisions were taken:
WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
Commencing 2011 each World Rally Championship (WRC) event must include one special stage on the final day for the purpose of enhancing television coverage. The fastest drivers and co-drivers will be awarded additional points (3-2-1) in accordance with the general classification of this stage.
An FIA Production Car Cup for drivers of 2WD cars entered in the Production Car World Rally Championship (PWRC) will be introduced in 2011 to encourage competitors in Group R cars. At each round of the PWRC, a separate classification will be produced for the drivers of 2WD cars and points allocated according to the same scale as the Championship. The Production Car Cup will be awarded to the driver who has scored the highest number of points. As entrants in the PWRC, drivers of 2WD cars must nominate their events from a list and can score points in both the PWRC and Production Car Cup.
From 2011, cars eligible to contest the FIA Super 2000 World Rally Championship must have a normally aspirated engine with a cylinder capacity of less than 2000cc. There will be no FIA WRC Cup from 2011.
After the fourth event in the 2011 WRC calendar, Manufacturer and WRC Teams are permitted to use a maximum of two engines per car for the remaining nine events.
Commencing from 2011, all cars will start special stages at one-minute intervals, to increase interest for spectators.
From 2011, Priority 2 drivers who have contested more than two consecutive rounds of the World Rally Championship will be awarded Priority 1 status for the remainder of the season. These drivers must then comply with the regulations pertaining to WRC Teams.
A specialist group representing interested parties will review the possibility of introducing GT cars to WRC events.
The FIA in association with the WRC promoter will establish an Academy for young drivers.
http://www.wrc.com/news/mini-world-rall ... ?fid=13590MINI World Rally Car up and running
MINI's new Countryman World Rally Car has turned its wheels in anger for the first time - successfully completing a shakedown test at Prodrive's private proving ground in the UK.
This initial part of the car’s test and development programme took place with team engineers driving the car over four days, primarily on tarmac, but also for several kilometres on loose surfaces.
The car will now travel to Portugal for a week of testing on gravel.
“As with any totally new car, it is vital to take time to ensure all the systems are working as intended before embarking on a week long gravel test,” said David Lapworth, Prodrive’s technical director.
The test MINI, sporting yellow camouflaged paintwork, is fitted with an interim body and aero package, while design of the final World Rally Car bodywork is underway.
http://www.rallybuzz.com/mads-ostberg-mini-wrc-essais/Ostberg tested Mini Countryman WRC
Mads Ostberg was the driver who was testing the new Mini Countryman WRC for the first time on gravel yesterday.
"The car is completely new, and it was absolutely the first time it was on gravel," said Ostberg. "It is not possible to do a review or give comments based on that, but it is a very exciting car, no doubt. And I think it's great to be the first rally driver to drive the car."
"The team is pleased that Mads had the honour of being first," commented Prodrive team manager David Campion, who followed Mads on yesterday's maiden voyage."We have received a proposal which, if we accept it, will place Mads in the Mini factory team next year. But there are important negotiations etc., before an agreement can come into place. There is nevertheless the historical fact that Mads was the first who tested the car on gravel. It will stand on his CV for ever."
It is part of the offer that Mads will be participate in the Mini's test programme to help develop the car for the WRC next year. But before he gets more testing with the Mini, Mads will end the season with a hectic program: Rally Sarema in Estonia, which is the finale of the FIA's Northern European Rallycup, and Wales Rally GB with the Subaru Impreza WRC. He will also contest Rally France with Ford and M-Sport in the S-WRC.
Meanwhile, the Adapta World Rally Team is having talks with Prodrive about a possible future role as a satellite team for the Mini World Rally Team, with one or two drivers. A partnership will also mean that Adapta will represent Prodrive and Mini sales and operation of the rally cars in Scandinavia.
Source: Adapta World Rally Team
