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Re: GP2 2008

Post by Fergie1 » 06 Sep 2008, 23:50

TwistedArmco wrote:There are 27 points available, 20 in Monza, 7 tomorrow but you're right, Grosjean's chances are slim, as are Di Grassi's after Pantano's stupid brain-fade today. Di Grassi would have been on race 2 pole but for that. Anyway, Senna's day could have been worse.

In short that was an absolutely crazy race, possibly the best GP2 race I've ever seen. Anyone else think that Grosjean double-moved on Parente at Les Combes?? He forced him to the outside and pushed him onto the wetter line.

Not really, I think its taken as double move as when someone does what Grosjean did in Barcelona, really sharp moves.

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Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 07:35

It wasn't a double move. Lets face it, we are in the same position as we were this time yesterday, so Pantano hasn't loast anything as its unlikely that Senna (starting 12th) or di grassi (21st) can get any points

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Post by Zack » 07 Sep 2008, 08:35

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Re: GP2 2008

Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 08:39

Chandhok spinny.

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Post by Zack » 07 Sep 2008, 09:19

he was hit by some1 ...force to spun ..not his mistake!

But still nice fight from him ..finished 8th :)

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Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 09:22

he finished 8th because 11 drivers retired :p

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Post by Zack » 07 Sep 2008, 09:25

phil1993 wrote:he finished 8th because 11 drivers retired :p


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Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 09:31

true. but to get points you need to be P1- P6 :p

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Re: GP2 2008

Post by Zack » 07 Sep 2008, 09:34

As you saw top drivers noobed out .. lolz ..considering it was good performance from him in mixed conditions.

Maldonado was spectacular ;)
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Re: GP2 2008

Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 09:36

yeah, Senna = noob, Grosjean kept going wide at Paul Frere and it finally bit him. Pantano = "drinking a glass of wine in the motorhome" according to itv.

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Re: GP2 2008

Post by Zack » 07 Sep 2008, 09:49

I felt Soucek defense on Maldonado was dangerous and unrighteous ... he steered left than again steered right .. Maldonado was very fortunate in that incident.

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Re: GP2 2008

Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 09:54

Pantano 71
Senna 60
Di Grassi and Grosjean 53
Maldonado 48
Buemi 44

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Re: GP2 2008

Post by TwistedArmco » 07 Sep 2008, 10:30

Zack wrote:I felt Soucek defense on Maldonado was dangerous and unrighteous ... he steered left than again steered right .. Maldonado was very fortunate in that incident.


Yep, Soucek double movement as well. Karma, and a tyre barrier hit him though, and Maldonado was awesome and won anyway..


What an amazing race! And Lucas di Grassi!! If he's not DQ'd for overtaking during the safety car (I would suspect that he was taking back places that were taken from him under yellows, I'm not sure though), then his race was awesome. And don't say it was because of retirements, Phil! He was 11th by the 4th lap! From 20th! And watch his start if they put it on ITV catch up. He gained 6 or 7 places, 20th to 13th!!

Yah, Senna noobed out, possibly Buemi braked early, but Senna still noobed out. So did Grosjean. He looked like an accident waiting to happen.

Stewardship.. Hmm.

1. I reckon Pantano deserved some kind of penalty. So I'm ok with that one.
2. I reckon, given that Senna didn't hold up the DPR car in the pits like Chandhok did at Valencia, he should have been given a fine like Massa - Valencia 2008 or Alonso - Nurburgring 2007. It was dangerous, BUT nothing came of it, and the DPR wasn't held up = fine, no drive through.
3. If Zuber had spec irregularities, then his penalty is ok. Durango used non-Dallara parts at Silverstone 2006 = double DQ, exclusion. There is a precedent for this, so that's ok.
4. If Di Grassi unreasonably overtook under yellows, a DQ will be deserved.
5. If Koboyashi did cut the last corner and gained a place thereby, a 25 second penalty should be applied.


Overall for all the drama, controversy, on-track action, crashes (did Parente have a brake Failure, and is he ok??) I think that is the best weekend of GP2 I've ever watched (as in both races were absolutely great), ranking alongside Turkey 2005, Valencia 2006, and Hungary 2006.

Not really, I think its taken as double move as when someone does what Grosjean did in Barcelona, really sharp moves.


Still, Grosjean is a damned hard racer. Too hard. He comes from deep, hangs people out to dry forcefully (Parente this Saturday), pushes people off the track (Soucek in Germany), chops across people (Filippi, Di Grassi at Valencia) and lunges into stupid moves in the arrogant hope that the guy ahead will move out of the way and let him through (think Parente and Pantano at Hungary this year) when not fully alongside. I don't like it. He's more agressive than Alonso and Hamilton put together.
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Re: GP2 2008

Post by shailf1 » 10 Sep 2008, 21:44

I think Pantano is going to win it this time.
And is it a rule that gp2 champion has to get a f1 seat or is it because the teams have been doing so because they are good.

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Re: GP2 2008

Post by syncmaster » 11 Sep 2008, 17:57

shail69 wrote:I think Pantano is going to win it this time.
And is it a rule that gp2 champion has to get a f1 seat or is it because the teams have been doing so because they are good.

I dont think so.The teams must have taking them
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