2009 European Formula 1 Grand Prix

[phil1993]

11 pts for Button in 4 races... really unexpected.

Vettel has used 7 engines I think.

Alonso also cut T4 which surely he should be penalised for?

[shailf1]

Rubens just needed to bring a bit of Felipe with him and he starts winning

[shailf1]

11 pts for Button in 4 races... really unexpected.

Vettel has used 7 engines I think.

Alonso also cut T4 which surely he should be penalised for?

no one was alongside him.

[Tom Vandenhove]

Brawn is raping everyone

[shailf1]

Fantastic race by Kimi and strategy by the team. I said it was doable. He was focused ALL weekend. GREAT start, that was the key.

So phil, was I right or what? You said Ferrari were off the podium pace.

[phil1993]

You were right Shail, Kimi surprised me: very anonymous but very fast - I can't help feel that Heikki should have been 3rd though; I think something happened maybe...

I still dont know why Button got out of the throttle at the start - stupid decision

[phil1993]

BADOER UPDATE: He's worked out you don't need to brake for that bit. Lap 7 almost done.

[AzShadow]

Vettel has only one engine left with 6 races to go? He'll have loads of penalties waiting for him. Red Bull will probably look at a new engine partner.

[Zack]

Vettel's WDC

[phil1993]

I think Ham also lost the race with a very very slow outlap after his first stop - Button was 3secs behind him when he emerged, but suddenly was right behind him!

[phil1993]

Vettel has only one engine left with 6 races to go? He'll have loads of penalties waiting for him. Red Bull will probably look at a new engine partner.

Spa... Monza...

oh dear...

Vettel's chance for WDC is gone... 25pts behind, 5DNFs...

[swca92]

The Valencia track is appalling, I don't remember one overtaking move (I'm not counting Grosjean on Badoer). If F1 goes back there I'll be furious, its a c**p track and hardly anyone turned up. Disappointing race, I had a quick nap halfway through and missed nothing, only Hamilton's pitstop was an event.

[shailf1]

No i think he has 2 new engines and 2 old ones..

[shailf1]

Mclaren only 5 points behind Ferrari in the WCC

[phil1993]

Vettel had an engine failure earlier in the year somewhen so thats 3 thats gone kaput.

As much as I like Martin Whitmarsh, I'd like him to stop. Lewis can still win the title