2009 Telefonica Spanish Grand Prix
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Jacobbs. On Ferrari, they are a shambles, they messed up qualifying, had a car break down and bungled up the pitstop, then messed up by leaving Massa out when they should have pitted him for more fuel, put the soft tyres on and raced Alonso for 5th.
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Poor guy really pissed off!Q & A with Felipe Massa
By Jonathan Noble and Pablo Elizalde Sunday, May 10th 2009, 15:17 GMT
Q. You had nine more kilos of fuel than Brawn at the start, yet you came in very soon after them. Can you explain what happened there?
Felipe MassaFelipe Massa: No. I don't understand. Maybe the consumption. I don't know.
Q. So you had to come in?
FM: Yeah.
Q. You couldn't have gone any further?
FM: I don't think so.
Q. After about 60 laps, you were 20 seconds behind, three tenths of a second behind. Is that more or less where Ferrari is?
FM: In Q2 we were two tenths slower. In qualifying, in Q3 we were four tenths slower because of the fuel. Usually the picture is similar in the race. Two tenths in the race is quite a big difference. Most of the time they were going slowly away. So that's the real picture at the moment.
Maybe we are still a couple of tenths behind. Red Bull I don't know because I was always in front of Vettel, so I don't know if I was holding him a lot or he was really similar. We still need to improve, but I think if you compare the car we had in this race and the car we had before it's a big stop forward. That's really, really encouraging.
Q. It must have been very disappointing when the team told you about the fuel?
FM: We didn't have a problem with the calculations. We had a problem with the machine. But I don't know if the problem was human or the machine. We need to analyse what was the problem.
It was very frustrating. You fight the whole race and then you have to back off. I was already saving fuel in the last run, but it was not enough, so I had to really back off and let Vettel go. I lost a position to Fernando and almost to Nick, so it was quite frustrating.
Q. How has the car improved?
FM: It's much better to drive. It's more consistent, you can be more aggressive under braking. We just have more downforce. It's just much better. I felt it straight away on Friday.
Q. Was there a chance to stop for fuel? What was the discussion with the team?
FM: My engineer was asking me to save fuel, but I was trying to save while fighting for my position with Vettel. He said maybe we could carry on like that and be okay. Then he said it was impossible. I think by the time it was worse to stop, so I don't know.
Q. With the speed of the Brawns and the points' advantage Jenson has, do you realistically think you can catch him?
FM: In the championship? No, I don't think so. We need to be realistic. After five races they won four. Even if we improve massively and we are three or four tenths if front of them they will still score points. So forget it.
@Jacobbs : Don't care ... its like sh*t as always.
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I think Ross Brawn isn't a good person because he have late Rubens take the win he diseur vet! He did all the hard work set up take the lied (and that Ross he did to Rubens in the past when they both work in Ferrari)! Same on you Ross
Same for Kimi he did a great job but the car he betray him, and in Ferrari they have to pout they brains to the heads and to do correct mathematics for strategy in fuel.
Same for Kimi he did a great job but the car he betray him, and in Ferrari they have to pout they brains to the heads and to do correct mathematics for strategy in fuel.
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Stream:
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It's normal that you say he isn't a good person because a good businessman like him don't act by thinking at Rubens or Jenson or Jenson's father but by thinking at his business (sponsors, engine, victory of the team, David Richards smiling or not, ...)I think Ross Brawn isn't a good person
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You dum right all about maney not for motorsport!
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wow guys ! i read almost 5-6 pages full of blames ...
First of all Well done for Brawn well done for Red Bull and Alonso no comments but he did a good job finishing in points with his Lego Car design ...
Talking about lots of things about this race especialy most teams getting aerodynamics upgrades/updates to the spanish gp some failed some worked and somes like Force India did nothing at all ...
I was surfing on some sites and i stopped on F1.com Technical Anylasis from Spanish gp , BMW was one of the most interresting info i read about their new designed rear wing will work well for Monaco as far as Ferrari and BMW both had lighter Chassis , Brawn had also a light chassis which is 7 KG lighter how'ever ...
Rumours as usualy are within every race weekend says that After Qualifying problem with Ferrari and Kimi , Ferrari is now considering Booting Kimi from the team (Remember Bahrain 2004 ? Kimi had an engine failure and he kept pushing on Gas ... it was a bad sign for the Mercedes Company )
now lets start with :
Brawn : Team Orders work well for them i think their next step is the same used to happen with Ferrari and especialy Austrian GP i guess it was 01 .
Red Bull : Thank You Adrian Newey
Renault : its time to kick Piquet out of the team remember ur good at kicking drivers ... get some1 that can challenge ... and Change this Epic-Fail design (Blame the Car not the Engine)
Ferrari : Another Quote from Another Race "Stop pushing ... You don't have much fuel for the end of the race u need to stop Pushing " Felipe replied " What can i do ! .. " a few laps later " Let him pass ... let him pass " << LOL
BMW : Not Bad .. Thank the Retirements ... Nick Well done for ur patient ...
Williams : Superb despite they only got 1 pt another team that should think about their car design
McLaren : Poor Lewis ...
Toyota : Blame the Williams i dunno they even didn't do well all weekend
Force India : blame the Williams again ... Sutil retired cause of crash , Fisico driving a damaged car
STR : No Comments but i think if they raced they would have been behind Lewis or in Top 10
Finaly this race was mega borring i only loved Fernando VS Massa
First of all Well done for Brawn well done for Red Bull and Alonso no comments but he did a good job finishing in points with his Lego Car design ...
Talking about lots of things about this race especialy most teams getting aerodynamics upgrades/updates to the spanish gp some failed some worked and somes like Force India did nothing at all ...
I was surfing on some sites and i stopped on F1.com Technical Anylasis from Spanish gp , BMW was one of the most interresting info i read about their new designed rear wing will work well for Monaco as far as Ferrari and BMW both had lighter Chassis , Brawn had also a light chassis which is 7 KG lighter how'ever ...
Rumours as usualy are within every race weekend says that After Qualifying problem with Ferrari and Kimi , Ferrari is now considering Booting Kimi from the team (Remember Bahrain 2004 ? Kimi had an engine failure and he kept pushing on Gas ... it was a bad sign for the Mercedes Company )
now lets start with :
Brawn : Team Orders work well for them i think their next step is the same used to happen with Ferrari and especialy Austrian GP i guess it was 01 .
Red Bull : Thank You Adrian Newey
Renault : its time to kick Piquet out of the team remember ur good at kicking drivers ... get some1 that can challenge ... and Change this Epic-Fail design (Blame the Car not the Engine)
Ferrari : Another Quote from Another Race "Stop pushing ... You don't have much fuel for the end of the race u need to stop Pushing " Felipe replied " What can i do ! .. " a few laps later " Let him pass ... let him pass " << LOL
BMW : Not Bad .. Thank the Retirements ... Nick Well done for ur patient ...
Williams : Superb despite they only got 1 pt another team that should think about their car design
McLaren : Poor Lewis ...
Toyota : Blame the Williams i dunno they even didn't do well all weekend
Force India : blame the Williams again ... Sutil retired cause of crash , Fisico driving a damaged car
STR : No Comments but i think if they raced they would have been behind Lewis or in Top 10
Finaly this race was mega borring i only loved Fernando VS Massa
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BARRICHELLO :
"I had the race in my hands and I was quite surprised when they told me they were switching Jenson to two (stops)," Barrichello said. "I would like to understand why they changed that."
"I had the race in my hands and I was quite surprised when they told me they were switching Jenson to two (stops)," Barrichello said. "I would like to understand why they changed that."
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More on that:
James Allen wrote:And after the race Rubens came out with an extraordinary statement and said in a live interview on US Speed TV channel, “If I get a whiff that Ross favoured Jenson today I will hang up my helmet immediately. But I don’t think he would do that..”
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I don't think it can be called Massa Vs Alonso, Massa couldn't fight back, Thanks to the brilliant team behind him, remember singapore last year, they cost him the championship with no doubt, atleast this season they are doing it early so he wouldn't have his hopes high then downJaguar wrote:
Finaly this race was mega borring i only loved Fernando VS Massa
Kimi was doing great, he was pushing on and pressing on wth no KERS, carrying extra weight for nothing and still he did well.
Ferrari now I think are not near the brawns, but at the same level as the RedBulls ( - good desicion from the team)
Massa's times were alost identical to those of Vettel's, I guess we can hope for a third spot in championship IF the team wakes up and start correcting the fatal errors they have been doing since last season!
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Press Conference:
Spoiler:
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massas times were identical to vettel becase vettel was behind him almost all the way through..
So we cannot compare the laptimes.
But i think vettel was much faster than massa, when ever he dropped back he was able to get up to massa quite quickly.
So we cannot compare the laptimes.
But i think vettel was much faster than massa, when ever he dropped back he was able to get up to massa quite quickly.
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Felipe says:
"We didn't have a problem with the calculations, we had a problem with the machine - but I don't know if the problem was human or the machine. We need to analyse what the problem was, it was very frustrating. You fight the whole race and then you have to back off; I was already saving fuel in the last run, but it was not enough, so I had to really back off and let Vettel go. I lost a position to Fernando and almost to Nick, so it was quite frustrating."
"We didn't have a problem with the calculations, we had a problem with the machine - but I don't know if the problem was human or the machine. We need to analyse what the problem was, it was very frustrating. You fight the whole race and then you have to back off; I was already saving fuel in the last run, but it was not enough, so I had to really back off and let Vettel go. I lost a position to Fernando and almost to Nick, so it was quite frustrating."
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Interesting talk:
Q: (Paulo Ianieri – La Gazzetta dello Sport) Rubens, I remember the Austrian race a few years
with Michael (Schumacher), early in the season, and you were stopped to allow him to win.
Are you afraid that this could happen again, seeing that Jenson is winning so much and you
are trying to score points and probably looking for a championship, that this might happen
again with the team pushing more for Jenson and you covering his shoulders?
RB: Well, I’m very experienced with that, and if that happens, I won’t follow any team orders any
more. I’m making it clear now, so everybody knows.
JB: I’m going to answer this a bit as well because this affects me. Our strategy said that a three stop
was quicker, full stop.
RB: It’s true, it’s much more different than it used to be at Ferrari. We have a much more friendly
situation, so I’m not sitting down on the side blaming this or that. The race was finished half an hour
ago and that’s the way it went. There’s no way I’m going to be crying here and saying I should have
done this or that. It’s in the best interests of myself to learn what went wrong today because I had the
ability to win the race but I didn’t and this is a full stop. Jenson is on a flyer and he’s doing very well. I
think this weekend was really good for me because I worked quite hard on all the set-up and
everything. We both learned to get better, we’re pushing each other very well. There’s a bit more
pressure on my side, obviously, because he’s won four races and I’ve won nothing but I’m there, I’m
working and I won’t stop working. I’m definitely raising my hands to the sky to give thanks because
this is a great car. It was not long ago that people were putting flowers on my grave and saying ‘thank
you very much for your job’ and so on. So I’m here, very much alive and happy and I’m going to make
it work. It’s as it was some years ago but with a much more friendly atmosphere.
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Ross hasn't got any respect for Rubens, it's a disgrace he didn't allow Rubens to win. Very weak to do it like this, Rubens has already been in that position (Aus, 2001).
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