FORMULA 1 2008 Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix
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And thanks for the ratings Shail and Phil
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no actually, I read the Times. Saying i read the Sun is an insult frankly. I try and be jokey and base my ratings on those used in MN.
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I am not going to say anything about the Ferrari team orders, because then I will get another ban
Check this:
http://www.f1zone.net/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=3543
Check this:
http://www.f1zone.net/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=3543
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Q: (Jerome Bourret – L’Equipe) Lewis, what’s your opinion of Ferrari’s tactics to switch position between Kimi and Felipe?
LH: There’s not really much to say about it. They’re a team and I know if it was in my position, if Heikki was leading, we would probably do the same thing. It’s playing together as a team and they obviously did a great job.
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Not a Good idea I like both of them , Thanks philipo and shailblizzard wrote:
My idea is: Let´s make a voting, who of you two should provide the driver ratings in 2009. Either shail 69 or you phil. The majority decides, because two different ratings by two persons is unneccessary and I don´t like the fact, that a small "battle" between you two guys seems to develop.
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I have no problem with their ratings but i hate the way they are presented "IMAGE".It takes away quote feature and less accessible (& google doesn't read images )iceman1 wrote:Not a Good idea I like both of them , Thanks philipo and shailblizzard wrote:
My idea is: Let´s make a voting, who of you two should provide the driver ratings in 2009. Either shail 69 or you phil. The majority decides, because two different ratings by two persons is unneccessary and I don´t like the fact, that a small "battle" between you two guys seems to develop.
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Dennis revealed to MTV3 (Finnish TV Channel) that they ordered Kovalainen to retire at the pits because they were afraid that his engine might have blown up in front of Hamilton and thus could have ruined Hamilton's win. I'm quite surprised too that Dennis says that it's fine if Ferrari gets a one-two in Interlagos. Doesn't he care about WCC at all? For Ferrari that's probably even more important. It's been 10 years since the last time McLaren won the constructors championship.
It could have been something to do with the tyre compounds and temperatures (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71613). From what I've seen Ferrari works the best with the softest compounds and when it's hot like Brazil last year. For this year they have hardened the compounds for Brazil though, to McLaren's convenience, so we'll see if Ferrari has any advantage anymore.Ali wrote:Hamilton's such pace remembered me Schumacher 2004. In one week time, what might have changed so dramatically? Quite interesting. Lewis seems to get a boost from those criticisim and disliking towards him. He reacted very very solidly. I'm very happy for him for at least he's now a relieved guy.
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I think Ron has a second thought in his mind such that he wants to change at least one of his drivers' engine for the last show. Teams are not allowed to change their engines after retiring in one GP unless they have reliability concerns. Remember 2005 Australia, both Hondas opted to pit in the last lap and retire so that they would be able to have a free engine change but then this rule had changed. So maybe Ron was saying this in order to rationalize Heikki's possible engine change. Lewis already lowered rev so his engine should be OK but still, McLaren have had 2 engine problems for two consecutive races albeit they were both in Heikki's car. That may be an indicatior.AzShadow wrote:Dennis revealed to MTV3 (Finnish TV Channel) that they ordered Kovalainen to retire at the pits because they were afraid that his engine might have blown up in front of Hamilton and thus could have ruined Hamilton's win.
It could have been something to do with the tyre compounds and temperatures (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71613). From what I've seen Ferrari works the best with the softest compounds and when it's hot like Brazil last year. For this year they have hardened the compounds for Brazil though, to McLaren's convenience, so we'll see if Ferrari has any advantage anymore.
Yes, I've read the QA. The only concern that Ferrari might have, as Zack said, last year was last year. McLaren won't be that slow. Ferrari still may have the upper hand but must consider main rival's hand, which almost clinched the trophy
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Ferrari have dominated at Interlagos the last 2 years.In 06 Massa won from pole and Schumi got 4th from last.Last year they finished a minute ahead of Alonso in 3rd.And with Lewis probably going to show caution a Ferrari 1-2 has to be expected in Brazil.
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Of course the tactical advantage is something to be considered too. But really, I still don't understand who decides what is a reliability concern and what is not. Usually when the drivers retire from the race for whatever reasons they change their engine for the next race and I've never heard about complaints about it.Ali wrote: I think Ron has a second thought in his mind such that he wants to change at least one of his drivers' engine for the last show. Teams are not allowed to change their engines after retiring in one GP unless they have reliability concerns. Remember 2005 Australia, both Hondas opted to pit in the last lap and retire so that they would be able to have a free engine change but then this rule had changed. So maybe Ron was saying this in order to rationalize Heikki's possible engine change. Lewis already lowered rev so his engine should be OK but still, McLaren have had 2 engine problems for two consecutive races albeit they were both in Heikki's car. That may be an indicatior.
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I wouldn`t be surprised: hamilton 3rd - World Champion.swca92 wrote:Ferrari have dominated at Interlagos the last 2 years.In 06 Massa won from pole and Schumi got 4th from last.Last year they finished a minute ahead of Alonso in 3rd.And with Lewis probably going to show caution a Ferrari 1-2 has to be expected in Brazil.
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People will try to muck up Hamilton's race in Brazil, I don't think it will work. He might muck it up himself, I don't think he will. Massa has to win, Hamilton has to stay calm, which is harder?
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Race tyre strategy
Ferrari
Kimi Räikkönen: Medium / Hard / Medium
Felipe Massa: Medium / Medium / Hard
BMW Sauber-BMW
Nick Heidfeld: Hard / Hard / Medium
Robert Kubica: Hard / Hard / Medium
Renault
Fernando Alonso: Hard / Hard / Medium
Nelson Piquet: Hard / Hard / Medium
Williams-Toyota
Nico Rosberg: Medium / Medium / Hard
Kazuki Nakajima: Medium / Hard
Red Bull-Renault
David Coulthard: Medium / Hard
Mark Webber: Hard / Medium / Medium
Toyota
Jarno Trulli: Hard / Hard / DNF
Timo Glock: Hard / Medium
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Sébastien Bourdais: Hard / Medium / Medium
Sebastian Vettel: Hard / Hard / Medium
Honda
Jenson Button: Hard / Hard / Medium
Rubens Barrichello: Hard / Hard / Medium
Force India-Ferrari
Adrian Sutil: Medium / DNF
Giancarlo Fisichella: Hard / Medium
McLaren-Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton: Hard / Hard / Medium
Heikki Kovalainen: Hard / Hard / Medium / DNF
Ferrari
Kimi Räikkönen: Medium / Hard / Medium
Felipe Massa: Medium / Medium / Hard
BMW Sauber-BMW
Nick Heidfeld: Hard / Hard / Medium
Robert Kubica: Hard / Hard / Medium
Renault
Fernando Alonso: Hard / Hard / Medium
Nelson Piquet: Hard / Hard / Medium
Williams-Toyota
Nico Rosberg: Medium / Medium / Hard
Kazuki Nakajima: Medium / Hard
Red Bull-Renault
David Coulthard: Medium / Hard
Mark Webber: Hard / Medium / Medium
Toyota
Jarno Trulli: Hard / Hard / DNF
Timo Glock: Hard / Medium
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
Sébastien Bourdais: Hard / Medium / Medium
Sebastian Vettel: Hard / Hard / Medium
Honda
Jenson Button: Hard / Hard / Medium
Rubens Barrichello: Hard / Hard / Medium
Force India-Ferrari
Adrian Sutil: Medium / DNF
Giancarlo Fisichella: Hard / Medium
McLaren-Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton: Hard / Hard / Medium
Heikki Kovalainen: Hard / Hard / Medium / DNF
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Hamilton is under pressure and so is Massa so they'll both make mistakes I think.