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Who will the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix?
Poll ended at 18 Oct 2008, 18:50
Lewis Hamilton 33%  33%  [ 24 ]
Felipe Massa 35%  35%  [ 25 ]
Robert Kubica 13%  13%  [ 9 ]
Kimi Räikkönen 13%  13%  [ 9 ]
Nick Heidfeld 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Fernando Alonso 7%  7%  [ 5 ]
Sebastian Vettel 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jarno Trulli 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Timo Glock 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nico Rosberg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nelsinho Piquet 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Kazuki Nakajima 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 72
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 Post subject: FORMULA 1 2008 Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix
PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:49  
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[center]2008 FORMULA 1 Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix
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The 2008 Chinese Grand Prix is the seventeenth race of the 2008 Formula One season. It will be held on 17–19 October at Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai, China.

Lewis Hamilton leads the Drivers' Championship by 5 points from Felipe Massa and 12 points from Robert Kubica. If Hamilton beats Massa by 6 or more points he is the World Champion.

Ferrari lead McLaren-Mercedes by 7 points in the Constructors' Championship and need to beat McLaren by 11 points to win the Championship. BMW Sauber are a further 7 points behind.

In 2007, the race was won by Ferrari's Kimi Räikkönen with Fernando Alonso finishing second and Felipe Massa finishing third. Championship leader Lewis Hamilton retired from the race after going off on a wet pit entrance on worn tyres, leaving him stuck in the gravel.

The four Chinese Grand Prix have been won by different drivers, with in addition to Räikkönen, Rubens Barrichello (2004), Fernando Alonso (2005) and Michael Schumacher (2006) taking the honours.

DRIVER STANDINGS
01 Lewis Hamilton 84
02 Felipe Massa 79
03 Robert Kubica 72
04 Kimi Räikkönen 63
05 Nick Heidfeld 56
06 Heikki Kovalainen 51
07 Fernando Alonso 48
08 Sebastian Vettel 30
09 Jarno Trulli 30
10 Mark Webber 21
11 Timo Glock 20
12 Nelsinho Piquet 18
13 Nico Rosberg 17
14 Rubens Barrichello 11


CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS
01 Ferrari 142
02 McLaren-Mercedes 135
03 BMW Sauber 128
04 Renault 66
05 Toyota 50
06 STR-Ferrari 34
07 Red Bull-Renault 29
08 Williams-Toyota 26
09 Honda 14
10 Force India-Ferrari 0


2007 Winner - Kimi Raikkonen
2006 Winner - Michael Schumacher
2005 Winner - Fernando Alonso
2004 Winner - Rubens Barrichello

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Ok, first talking points, as Hamilton is able to win the championship if he scores 6 points or more than Massa, will he be able to do it? This isn't really a Massa circuit as he hasn't done brilliantly here in the years F1 has come here.
Also, will Renault and Alonso have a chance?
Discuss. And don't be awfully biased and anything about what happened at Fuji stays in the Fuji thread.. :wave:


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 Post subject: Re: FORMULA 1 2008 Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix
PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 18:51  
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wooh! first voter!

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 Post subject: Re: FORMULA 1 2008 Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix
PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 19:06  
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Looking back at the past races, you have no idea what's going to happen at Shanghai. But I expect a Ferrari or McLaren win, although I don't know who is the stronger atm. I'm hoping for Kubica, though.

Will be interesting to see if Hamilton can get his nerves together this time. Looking a bit shaky both last year and at Fuji..
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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 22:07  
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hope it does not rain..
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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 12:36  
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I voted for Felipe. The Shanghai Circuit is clearly a Ferrari track, as 3 of 4 wins are Ferrari-wins. I hope Massa can show a better performance than he did at Fuji and bring the victory home. If Hamilton finishes 3rd or worse, Massa will leave China 1st on the championship table.

HAMILTON WILL BE CHAMPION AT CHINA IF:

...he wins with Massa finishing 5th or worse (Hamilton: 94 pts., 5 wins, 2 2nd places / Massa: 83 pts., 5 wins, 1 2nd place)
NOTE: If Massa would finish 4th he still has a chance to win the title in Brazil, if Hamilton doesn't finish in the points and Massa takes victory, he has 94 pts as Hamilton, but more wins.

...he finishes 2nd with Massa finishing 7th or worse and Kubica not winning the race (Hamilton: 92 pts. / Massa: 81 pts. / Kubica: 80 pts. or less)

...he finishes 3rd with Massa finishing outside the points positions and Kubica finishing 4th or worse (Hamilton: 90 pts. / Massa: 79 pts. / Kubica: 77 pts.)

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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 12:52  
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I am sure it wont be as straight forward as that. In almost all the races this season.we have seen problems for either massa or hamilton. And in all races there has been a problem for either ferrari or mclaren.
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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 14:51  
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These can be the title decider but he should not be.............

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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 15:19  
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the magic number for hamilton-massa is 6 points. if massa would trail by that much after the race, it's game over! as for kubica, it's a little more difficult - he needs to score at least 3 points (or just gain 3 points) and hope for a dnf for lewis, and not lose 4 points to massa to have a chance at brazil.

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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 16:40  
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looking at how things swing... i think its probably another Ferrari year.. lets see... :p
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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 17:51  
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Hamilton is a very very bad driver when he is in this situation (1st) + It must not rain in chinese
Massa is good and confident (his overtaking on Webber)
Kubica is good

I think also that :
1-Massa
2-Raikkonen
3-Kubica
4-Alonso (he say that he want help Massa)
5-Hamilton

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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 17:56  
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If Massa beats Hamilton in China,I think Massa wins the championship.Ferrari have dominated Interlagos the last 2 years,and I can see a Ferrari 1-2 in Brazil giving Massa the championship.Massa will probably win Brazil,so Lewis has to beat Massa this race and need only 4th or better in Brazil.Otherwise he's screwed.
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nerves maybe, choking out from the immense pressure.....

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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2008, 18:00  
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swca92 wrote:
If Massa beats Hamilton in China,I think Massa wins the championship.Ferrari have dominated Interlagos the last 2 years,and I can see a Ferrari 1-2 in Brazil giving Massa the championship.Massa will probably win Brazil,so Lewis has to beat Massa this race and need only 4th or better in Brazil.Otherwise he's screwed.


if it's dry, ferrari will probably dominate....but if it rains, (alonso will dominate!) :)

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china maybe is a ferrari track, but last year mclaren was fast there
last GP show us that massa and hamilton are ruthless
i hope that ferrari will not make another stupid mistake and kimi and felipe finish 1-2
wheater could be crucial
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swca92 wrote:
If Massa beats Hamilton in China,I think Massa wins the championship.Ferrari have dominated Interlagos the last 2 years,and I can see a Ferrari 1-2 in Brazil giving Massa the championship.Massa will probably win Brazil,so Lewis has to beat Massa this race and need only 4th or better in Brazil.Otherwise he's screwed.


if it's dry, ferrari will probably dominate....but if it rains, (alonso will dominate!) :)


Alonso??? U never known in china Ferrari has good results in rain also

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