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Who will win the 2008 Japanese Grand Prix
Poll ended at 12 Oct 2008, 17:06
Lewis Hamilton 22%  22%  [ 18 ]
Felipe Massa 37%  37%  [ 31 ]
Robert Kubica 7%  7%  [ 6 ]
Kimi Räikkönen 16%  16%  [ 13 ]
Nick Heidfeld 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Fernando Alonso 13%  13%  [ 11 ]
Sebastian Vettel 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jarno Trulli 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Timo Glock 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nico Rosberg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nelsinho Piquet 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Kazuki Nakajima 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 83
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix
PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 14:26  
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phil1993 wrote:
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OK then. I've been busy typing so enjoy!

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Thank you for the work you put into that phil!

I came up with some different ratings: Kubica 10/10 - he drove a marvelous race, great defence against Kimi, P2 with a struggling BMW, he maximised the result, watch Heidfeld :)

Kimi 8/10 - It was like a little "comeback", but the final step was missing, winning the race. Although he drove great today, but his pace was theoretically good enough to win.

Hamilton 1/10 - He threw it away at turn one, once again. Like in Brazil 2007 he was overagressive and unwise, he really has to learn, that races can´t be won in turn 1, but they can be lost. After the spin and the penalty he didn´t impress me at all, no comeback this time, finished in an unspectacular 12th place, the coming together with Massa wasn´t his fault though. Is still going to win the championship though.


Massa 5/10 - Suffered from the mess at the start, which put him back to 7th or 8th, lost out to Hamilton at the chicane, refused to give up and ran into Hamilton´s back. Felipe´s mistake, no doubt, but at least he showed some b*** and restrained Hamilton, which was important for him to gain some respect in the paddock and especially from Hamilton, because Felipe had the reputation to be a bit easy to overtake and too soft. He was brilliant in the late stages of the race, overtaking several cars and applying the move of the race on Webber.

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phil1993 wrote:
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is this dependant on the finishing position or the actual quality of driving??
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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 14:34  
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phil1993 wrote:
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Hi Phill i have some question for u
Why Massa is 1/10 and Hamilton 5/10 as both served the penalty.
Are u giving ratings on ur on?
Are u trying to be neutral or a Hamilton fan

I think Massa should get more(In neutral thinking not in Ferrari support) because he was right with lewis after the penalty but Hamilton did not pulled away from Massa like he did in monza from kimmi.I think u gave Hamilton 5 because he kept ITV commentator from not talking about Hamilton.i think Massa penalty was not because he hit Hamilton it was because other cars have to run off track because of his collision

Edit I use to liked ur rating phil but now iam losing hope

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 14:35  
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Suntrek wrote:
Not only for Spanish fans :p


+1.. :)

I love today. :cool:

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Edit I use to liked ur rating phil but now iam losing hope


Hey, even if you don't agree with his conclusions, you gotta agree the kid has one hell of a sense of humour.

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 14:37  
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Massa has to be 1/10.

He was a a complete disgrace, ramming into cars like he was in dragsters. He should have a got a 10-sec stop and go, and another, for the avoidable crashes he was responsible for.

Complete disgrace.
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Hamilton was 5pts/10 not 5/10. In reality i would have given 2 or 3 out of 10. If you dont agree with me, dont read 'em.

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 14:40  
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phil1993 wrote:
Hamilton was 5pts/10 not 5/10. In reality i would have given 2 or 3 out of 10. If you dont agree with me, dont read 'em.


Well said Phil.

Everyone else, let Phil have his opinion, and give your own reasonably.

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Thanks philipo
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phil1993 wrote:
Hamilton was 5pts/10 not 5/10. In reality i would have given 2 or 3 out of 10. If you dont agree with me, dont read 'em.


Well said Phil.

Everyone else, let Phil have his opinion, and give your own reasonably.

ditto.
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phil1993 wrote:
Hamilton was 5pts/10 not 5/10. In reality i would have given 2 or 3 out of 10. If you dont agree with me, dont read 'em.


Well said Phil.

Everyone else, let Phil have his opinion, and give your own reasonably.



I think I gave mine resonably, and of course I respect yours. There isn´t a point where I didn´t. :thumbsup:

btw: thx for the info phil, that 5pts/10 related to the championship standings and not a 5/10 rating.

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Massa deserved a better score than Lewis, they were arond the same part of the circuit then Massa pulled away and deserved a world championship point (I don't think 2). Lewis didn't deserve anything after turn one, he ruined a lot of people's races, then didn't catch up after the penalty. Massa 5, Lewis 2. Kimi should stay, as he had damage after turn one, you can tell as he couldn't get past Kubica but Massa flew past Quick Nick. Massa isn't that good at overtaking! But I did like his Webber move!

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 14:56  
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In the last 4 races, including and since Belgium:

Alonso 30
Vettel 21
Kubica 17
Massa 15
Heidfeld 15
Hamilton 14
Kovalainen 8
Rosberg 8
Raikkonen 6
Glock 5
Piquet 5
Trulli 4

In the last 8 races, including and since Britain:

Hamilton 46
Alonso 37
Massa 31
Kovalainen 31
Kubica 28
Heidfeld 28
Vettel 25
Raikkonen 20
Glock 17
Piquet 15
Rosberg 9
Trulli 8

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I'm watching the re-run :p race is about to start...

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re watching the start, Hamilton dropped to 6th as Kovy forced him to brake early for T3 and he got swamped

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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2008, 15:13  
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I can here the re-run, but I don't see any point watching it...what's done is done.

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