2008 FORMULA 1™ Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix

Who will win the 2008 Japanese Grand Prix

Poll ended at 12 Oct 2008, 17:06

Lewis Hamilton
18
22%
Felipe Massa
31
37%
Robert Kubica
6
7%
Kimi Räikkönen
13
16%
Nick Heidfeld
0
No votes
Heikki Kovalainen
1
1%
Fernando Alonso
11
13%
Sebastian Vettel
0
No votes
Jarno Trulli
0
No votes
Timo Glock
0
No votes
Nico Rosberg
0
No votes
Nelsinho Piquet
0
No votes
Kazuki Nakajima
3
4%
 
Total votes: 83

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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix

Post by blizzard » 02 Oct 2008, 10:10

joostlamers wrote:Top ten average qualifying positions in 2008 up to and including Singapore Grand Prix:

1. Felipe Massa 2.9
2. Lewis Hamilton 3.2
3. Heikki Kovalainen 3.8
4. Kimi Raikkonen 4.8
5. Robert Kubica 5.2
6. Fernando Alonso 7.6
7. Jarno Trulli 8.2
8. Mark Webber 8.6
9. Nick Heidfeld 8.7
10. Timo Glock 10.9




2 things surprise me:

1. Kovalainen has a better average grip position than Kimi
2. Heidfeld´s average grip position isn´t as bad as I thought. I felt like he was 9 or 10 times out of the top ten.
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Post by Ali » 02 Oct 2008, 12:32

This table also shows how Ferrari and Massa spoiled their qualification advantage by reliability and awful tactical decisions. All championship contender did many mistakes so the decisive moments were when reliability and tactical options did their own job.

In Fuji, if it rains, I can't think of any other option but a dominant Hamilton win. If it's dry, in a circuit one half of which consists of sweeping and flat out corners and the other half of which is tight and twisty, it's anyone's game between Ferrari and McLaren 'cause they proved they can be similarly quick on both type of circuits unlike 2007. Kimi and Heikki will be the guys to watch in terms of helping their team mates.

Last year, Hamilton arrived in Fuji with a 2 points advantage over Alonso and now he has 7 points advantage. It's a huge boost both pointwise and confidentwise. Ferrari will use their first engine for Fuji race, while both McLaren drivers will use the same engine with Singapore. That might be a slight advantage for Ferrari if it's dry.
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Post by JoostLamers » 02 Oct 2008, 14:24

Ali wrote:This table also shows how Ferrari and Massa spoiled their qualification advantage by reliability and awful tactical decisions. All championship contender did many mistakes so the decisive moments were when reliability and tactical options did their own job.

Those were my exect thoughts :p
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Post by etapia » 02 Oct 2008, 19:48

joostlammers wrote:Questions:
1. Will Hamilton still be in the lead after this race?
2. Will Massa dominate and win this race?
3. Will Raikkonen finish this race (in the points)?
4. Can Alonso get near his season high in Fuji?
5. Will Vettel be beatable if it rains?
6. Can Rosberg repeat his result of Singapore?
7. Will BMW be a threat for the 2 topteams?


1. well not a big fan, I hope not.
2. YES, sure!!!
3. Yes
4. Hope so..
5. yes, depends of tons of detail, McLaren is strong in rain too.
6. No
7. I don't think so[/quote]

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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix

Post by Ollie » 02 Oct 2008, 20:34

Seen these questions answered by the above member and will answer them myself aswell.

1. Will Hamilton still be in the lead after this race?
Hopefully, I predict a 2nd place finish for him, I think it will be a Ferrari 1 + 3 I hope it isnt but after the poor performance and the last grand prix Ferrari will be doing ANYTHING in their power to get Massa fully back into the race, I expect some dirty tactics from Raikkonen.
2. Will Massa dominate and win this race?
I don't think he will dominate, but what I think will happen is Raikkonen will be forced to yield to him towards lap 40 and sit back and hold Hamilton up, hopefully he will be able to get passed him.
3. Will Raikkonen finish this race (in the points)?
Yes I see him finnishing 3rd and ending his run at the World Chapmionship this year, this will be overshadowed by the impending war between Massa and Hamilton.
4. Can Alonso get near his season high in Fuji?
No, I think renault will be back to 6th-12th this race I think behind red bulls and toyota, I don't think Alonso will hiy as high as he did in Singapore.
5. Will Vettel be beatable if it rains?
If qualifying is unaffected as in the top contenders get the bad luck of the weather, then yes he will be beatable but if he is on Pole and there is rain ahead, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
6. Can Rosberg repeat his result of Singapore?
No, I think that Rosberg has had a real mediocre season and he will return to the mediocrity this race, next season I think that he will shine more, he proved he can do this under the lights of Singapore.
7. Will BMW be a threat for the 2 topteams?
They have fallen away a little, if they had just continued developing their car this year wouldn't have been so 2 teamed. It would have been a much more interesting year with the likes of Kubica throwing spanners in some of the top contenders races like he did at the start of the year.
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Post by darthfury » 03 Oct 2008, 00:28

really really hoping for a dry race :X

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Post by Zack » 03 Oct 2008, 06:49

Questions:
1. Will Hamilton still be in the lead after this race?
NO!

2. Will Massa dominate and win this race?
Yeah!

3. Will Raikkonen finish this race (in the points)?
Yeah probably second or third.

4. Can Alonso get near his season high in Fuji?
Singapore was one off .. no chance under circumstances.

5. Will Vettel be beatable if it rains?
yeah ... but will be very strong & probably will finish inside p5
6. Can Rosberg repeat his result of Singapore?
No

7. Will BMW be a threat for the 2 topteams?
20% chances of it!
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Post by phil1993 » 03 Oct 2008, 10:07

weather update: showers expected: 95% chance of rain every day

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Post by syncmaster » 03 Oct 2008, 10:22

Japan and China will be in rain and Safety car or Bad weather can damage plans of Ferrari.
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Post by JoostLamers » 03 Oct 2008, 10:49

phil1993 wrote:weather update: showers expected: 95% chance of rain every day

Wow :blink: or as Hamilton would have said: "Shoot!" :p
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Post by swca92 » 03 Oct 2008, 11:22

95%??? If that's true we may get one of them extremely wet races,like Barcelona 96,Spa 98 etc.Lewis and Vettel are delighted with that,I think Domenicali will be peeing in his pants at that forecast...

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Post by phil1993 » 03 Oct 2008, 11:30

more likely means a 95% chance of precipitation eg. drizzle/light light shower

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Post by gokul009 » 03 Oct 2008, 12:52

Questions:
1. Will Hamilton still be in the lead after this race - Yes, I expect him to be second or third
2. Will Massa dominate and win this race - I expect him to win, but I don't think he will dominate like in Bahrain, Turkey or Valencia
3. Will Raikkonen finish this race (in the points) -Yes, he will stop that stupid rot with a second or third.
4. Can Alonso get near his season high in Fuji - No, he wont, I still think he can get some points
5. Will Vettel be beatable if it rains - He can beat everyone except Lewis Hamilton
6. Can Rosberg repeat his result of Singapore - No, Singapore result was due to luck
7. Will BMW be a threat for the 2 topteams - No, they are dropping back

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Post by JoostLamers » 03 Oct 2008, 14:35

Hamilton: "It was no fun to drive for the points, but I understood that it was the best strategy." Besides this, he also said that it was very difficult for him to deny the impulses that he has been developing from the age of 8. But it was a good learning point for me, he said. This is the real driver talking..
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Post by kimi and mika » 03 Oct 2008, 16:01

Questions:
1. Will Hamilton still be in the lead after this race? I hope not but yep he will.
2. Will Massa dominate and win this race? No.
3. Will Raikkonen finish this race (in the points)? Yes, maybe win.
4. Can Alonso get near his season high in Fuji? No, just forget about it...
5. Will Vettel be beatable if it rains? He was beatable before, so yes.
6. Can Rosberg repeat his result of Singapore? No, he might score a point.
7. Will BMW be a threat for the 2 topteams? No

I was thinking Ferrari might use Kimi to disadvantage Lewis, First corner incident, something so he doesn't get good points. You never know maybe a pit lane incident where Raikkonen gets Lewis back then says "Oh there was a red light, I didn't see that. Sorry IF I ruined your race!"
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