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Who will win the 2008 FORMULA 1 Singapore Grand Prix
Lewis Hamilton 24%  24%  [ 24 ]
Felipe Massa 32%  32%  [ 31 ]
Robert Kubica 9%  9%  [ 9 ]
Kimi Räikkönen 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Nick Heidfeld 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jarno Trulli 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Fernando Alonso 17%  17%  [ 17 ]
Mark Webber 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Timo Glock 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Vettel 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 98
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:14  
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lealjaime wrote:
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Yeah!! Hamilton!! Yeah!!
Dutch commentator after Massa spun just before Sutil crashed there: "Once again, you can see hear, that Massa can't drive." :) :D
What a silly mistake from Massa!! Albers style!! And Albers got punnished real harder, but hey, he was not driving in a Ferrari...
And the wallman proved his new nickname again :p Ferrari: 0 points!! :thumbsup:



silly mistake from massa when ????

after he saw green light in pits ??? thats a pit crew mistake, after that he push very hard to get something

in the other hand hamilton coundnt overtake dc over 20 laps with a 2 secs fast car what a driver!!!!

hamilton just did a regular race wasnt the fastest driver or something... thats good for his chances to get championship


It was more Ferrari's fault than Massa.

Don't forget that DC runs in Formula 1 during 14 years now, he knows defending his position! But extreme bad luck for Massa! Two times he could win and take the advantage on Hamilton, two times his car or his team failed ( Hungary and Singapore ).......
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PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:19  
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I'd love to hear the Spanish commentators on the last lap.They must have gone mental.


haha, very true. They get so emotional.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:23  
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i am waiting for Suntrek :p


Here I am :hug:

And I'm going to be happy for a week! :1st:
just 1 week?

We got 2nd and I'm gonna be happy at least until next race.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:25  
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phil1993 wrote:
Just thinking, as KR retired at the end, and although only 14 drivers crossed the line - 15 are classified, so in the prediction competition does this count as 14 or 15 finishers?

although he is classified he did not finish the race. Usually, those drivers who finish 6 laps from the end are classified.

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PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:26  
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FIA should ban that light system until it passes an official FIA test. It's dangerous. the fuel hose man gets injured.
and fuel spillt all over the place.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:28  
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steady on! Lewis had a 12 point lead going to China last year and he lost it!


This year he is not doing it .. He is a much better driver in the second half of the season than the first half .. So i m hoping that Hamilton wins Chinese GP !!


last year there were other things apart from racing. The whole Mclaren saga had a say in the final result, I'm sure of it.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:31  
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iceman1 wrote:
The ING Renault won in Singapore the home of ING, just when ING were reviewing whether to continue in a sponsors role !
Alonso escapes opening lap chicanery:
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 48,00.html


Not sure where you got that info but Singapore ain't no home of ING.
http://www.ing.com/group/showdoc.jsp?docid=074177_EN
My girlfriend confirmed Singapore is just the Asia-Pacific headquarters NOT the home of ING. The home is in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Literally a world away. They have a fancy building, by the Schipol airport.
http://www.ingim.com.sg/econtactus.html

Alonso is pretty entertaining when he wins. he got all these silly dances and hand gestures. And speaking of the trophy - pretty neat.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:44  
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wether Ferrari made a lot of mistakes or not .. we shall stand for our red team and support them till the last lap pf Brazailian GP .. been a fan of ferrari since 1996 we've shared a lot of joy and sadness moment and always look forward to future and try to fix our faults .. Thats the true spirit of Tifosi .. go red all time

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 21:54  
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Ferrari should really think about not using that traffic light again... The penalty Massa had was for the same problem as in Valencia... that system do not see if there is car coming... And today it could have been quite worst....

Anyway, for me was a good race, especially after the SC... More points for Hamilton... More points for McLaren... quite more overtaking and action than valencia... and Ferrari that doesn't need enemies on the track to loose points....

Good for Alonso and Rosberg.. they deserve results like those ones more often...
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008, 22:33  
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Greetings from Spain.
Forza Alonso !! The BEST.

Good job, and lucky (like unlucky yesterday), Alonso is back to the number one.

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Buen trabajo, con suerte (la misma mala suerte de ayer), Alonso vuelve al número uno.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 29 Sep 2008, 00:29  
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wether Ferrari made a lot of mistakes or not .. we shall stand for our red team and support them till the last lap pf Brazailian GP .. been a fan of ferrari since 1996 we've shared a lot of joy and sadness moment and always look forward to future and try to fix our faults .. Thats the true spirit of Tifosi .. go red all time

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 29 Sep 2008, 00:49  
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I missed some part of the race and i think i even missed the puncture of Massa,at what lap did he suffered a puncture

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PostPosted: 29 Sep 2008, 05:58  
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I think it's lap 29 when he comes to the pit for the last time, Kubica overtook him 1 lap before and Massa couldn't follow him!
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PostPosted: 29 Sep 2008, 07:03  
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Ali wrote:
lealjaime wrote:
joostlamers wrote:
Yeah!! Hamilton!! Yeah!!
Dutch commentator after Massa spun just before Sutil crashed there: "Once again, you can see hear, that Massa can't drive." :) :D
What a silly mistake from Massa!! Albers style!! And Albers got punnished real harder, but hey, he was not driving in a Ferrari...
And the wallman proved his new nickname again :p Ferrari: 0 points!! :thumbsup:



silly mistake from massa when ????

after he saw green light in pits ??? thats a pit crew mistake, after that he push very hard to get something

in the other hand hamilton coundnt overtake dc over 20 laps with a 2 secs fast car what a driver!!!!

hamilton just did a regular race wasnt the fastest driver or something... thats good for his chances to get championship

No mate, he meant the spin but don't even try to convince him. He's not that kind of an objective person to comment on races. It's just Hamilton-mania, nothing more.

Massa did everything perfect in this weekend. It's a shame he couldn't win it. I'm really sorry for him. He lost two wins including Hungary, which would cost him the WDC.

Nice post Ali :)

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phil1993 wrote:
Just thinking, as KR retired at the end, and although only 14 drivers crossed the line - 15 are classified, so in the prediction competition does this count as 14 or 15 finishers?

although he is classified he did not finish the race. Usually, those drivers who finish 6 laps from the end are classified.

iirc rule is if driver completes 90%(?) of the race then he is classified.

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I think it's lap 29 when he comes to the pit for the last time, Kubica overtook him 1 lap before and Massa couldn't follow him!

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RACE FACTS AND INCIDENTS BULLETIN – Sunday, September 28, 2008

Lap 1: On pole for the fifth time this season – and the 14th in his Formula One career – Felipe Massa
makes a clean start to lead Lewis Hamilton and Kimi Räikkönen into Turn One. Heikki Kovalainen
briefly gets ahead of Robert Kubica for fourth but the two touch at Turn Three and the Pole reasserts
himself. Sebastian Vettel and Timo Glock then pass Kovalainen to take fifth and sixth. Nick Heidfeld
runs eighth ahead of Jarno Trulli, Nico Rosberg, Kazuki Nakajima, Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber,
Jenson Button, David Coulthard, Sébastien Bourdais, Rubens Barrichello, Nelson Piquet, Adrian Sutil
and Giancarlo Fisichella (who starts from the pits following some unscheduled set-up changes). Massa
leads by 1.2s.
Lap 2: Massa laps in 1m47.658s, Hamilton in 1m47.656s. The gap remains 1.2s.
Lap 3: Massa leads by 1.7s.
Lap 4: Rosberg briefly passes Trulli at Turn One but runs wide and drops back again.
Lap 5: The leader’s advantage grows to 2.0s.
Lap 6: Massa laps in 1m46.342s. He leads by 2.6s.
Lap 7: Rosberg passes Trulli for ninth.
Lap 8: Nakajima passes Trulli.
Lap 9: Fastest lap to Räikkönen: 1m46.115s. Alonso passes Trulli.
Lap 10: Massa leads by 3.3s. Räikkönen posts a 1m46.105s to trail Hamilton by 3.9s.
Lap 11: Räikkönen laps in 1m45.764s.
Lap 12: Alonso makes the race’s first scheduled stop.
Lap 13: Massa laps in 1m45.757s. He leads by 4.5s. Bourdais spins at Turn 18 and drops to 18th.
Lap 14: Räikkönen laps in 1m45.599s. He is 2.2 s behind Hamilton. Piquet crashes heavily at Turn 17.
Webber, Coulthard and Barrichello pit.
Lap 15: Safety Car deployed. Rosberg pits. Barrichello stops on the circuit.
Lap 16: Kubica pits.
Lap 17: Pit lane opens. Massa, Hamilton, Vettel, Glock, Räikkönen, Kovalainen, Heidfeld, Nakajima,
Button and Sutil pit. Räikkönen is behind Massa who leaves prematurely. The Brazilian knocks down a
member of his crew and rejoins with his fuel rig still attached. He eventually leaves the pits again.
Lap 18: Behind the Safety Car Rosberg leads from Trulli, Fisichella, Kubica, Alonso, Webber, Bourdais
(who pits), Coulthard, Hamilton, Vettel, Glock, Heidfeld, Nakajima, Button, Kovalainen, Sutil, Räikkönen
and Massa.
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Lap 20: Restart. Rosberg immediately pulls clear of Trulli to lead by 2.8s. Glock passes Vettel.
Räikkönen passes Sutil. Massa runs slightly wide over the kerbs at Turn 23.
Lap 21: Rosberg leads by 5.1s.
Lap 22: Rosberg leads by 6.9s. Rosberg and Kubica are under investigation. Massa passes Bourdais.
Lap 24: Massa serves a drive-through penalty for unsafe release from the pits.
Lap 26: Rosberg leads by 12.2s but must serve a 10s stop-go penalty for having refuelled before the
pit lane opened. Kubica receives the same penalty.
Lap 27: Kubica comes in for his penalty. Rosberg runs wide at Turn 14.
Lap 28: Rosberg pits. Trulli leads. Webber runs wide at Turn One and drops to 14th.
Lap 29: Trulli leads by 11.9s from Alonso and Rosberg. Fisichella pits, as does Webber. The latter
retires.
Lap 31: Kubica passes Massa who pits at the end of the lap. (puncture)
Lap 32: Trulli leads by 10.8s.
Lap 33: Trulli pits and drops to eighth. Alonso leads Rosberg by 4.3s. Kubica and Bourdais pit, too.
Lap 34: Kovalainen pits.
Lap 35: Alonso extends his lead to 5.6s. Button pits.
Lap 37: Alonso sets a personal best: 1m46.020s. Rosberg is 7.0s behind. Massa runs wide at Turn
One.
Lap 38: Nakajima passes Trulli for eighth.
Lap 39: Räikkönen passes Trulli. Sutil pits.
Lap 40: Alonso laps in 1m45.843s. Rosberg pits and drops to seventh.
Lap 41: Alonso pits. He rejoins without losing the lead.
Lap 42: Hamilton passes Coulthard. Both pit at the lap’s end. Coulthard is delayed as one of his crew
members slips over. Nakajima pits.
Lap 43: Alonso leads Glock by 4.8s. Vettel and Heidfeld pit. Hamilton lies seventh, behind Räikkönen.
Lap 44: Räikkönen runs wide at Turn Two.
Lap 45: Alonso leads from Glock, Rosberg, Räikkönen, Hamilton and Trulli. Kubica passes Fisichella.
Lap 46: Glock pits and drops to fifth. Massa runs wide at the first turn.
Lap 50: Räikkönen pits and slips to fifth. Trulli slows to a crawl and retires at the end of the lap. Massa
spins at Turn 18 and rejoins just before Sutil crashes at the same spot. Safety Car deployed.
Lap 54: Restart. Alonso leads Rosberg by 3.7s.
Lap 58: Räikkönen crashes at Turn 10.
Lap 61: Alonso wins by 2.9s from Rosberg, Hamilton, Glock, Vettel, Heidfeld, Coulthard and Nakajima.
It is the Spaniard’s first Formula One success since Monza 2007.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 29 Sep 2008, 07:22  
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maltafan wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
Just thinking, as KR retired at the end, and although only 14 drivers crossed the line - 15 are classified, so in the prediction competition does this count as 14 or 15 finishers?

although he is classified he did not finish the race. Usually, those drivers who finish 6 laps from the end are classified.

Drivers who complete 90% of the race distance are classified as finishers.
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