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Who will win the 2008 FORMULA 1 Singapore Grand Prix
Lewis Hamilton 24%  24%  [ 24 ]
Felipe Massa 32%  32%  [ 31 ]
Robert Kubica 9%  9%  [ 9 ]
Kimi Räikkönen 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Nick Heidfeld 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jarno Trulli 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Fernando Alonso 17%  17%  [ 17 ]
Mark Webber 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Timo Glock 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Vettel 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 98
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2008, 21:56  
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Lightning983 wrote:
Well, i like Kovaleinen... because you have to admit, he is a likable guy, always smiling and talking to the press.

But, the results haven't really been coming to him, and looking at the points, he is not only behind his teammate or the ferrari drivers, but behind both BMW drivers. That's not really a good performance as far as i'm concerned.

To be fair all year hes been put on c**p strategy's supporting Hamilton and had a chance of victory in Turkey but got a punctured and stalled in Monaco, crashed in Spain etc. He did have Silverstone to win but everyone has bad races. His are just made to look worse by a inferior strategy and when fuel corrected Kovy usually out-qualifies Hamilton.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2008, 22:32  
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I dont agree that singapore will be as boring as valencia. Well I guess we will have more retirements because of the fact that they are racing in night, that might be good for someone while not so good for others. I honestly think there will be more overtakings in gp. Remember my word


Why? The track circumstances are the same and the "night" c**p is only Bernie's way of saying "you don't understand racing - all you want a specutacular circus and all I want is money".

Please elaborate.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 02:30  
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i did a complete lap yesterday walking. in city circuit is difficult to overtake, and more yesterday day have started to put plastic kerbs (about 6-8 cm high) in every corner. so basically the radius of the curve its even narrow now. More the track has not constant width some place is very large in other ridiculous narrow curve 10 (slow chicane) and especially 11, 12, and 13 are ridiculously narrow even for formula renault (they should have just let the track follow the real road), so no pass either dry or wet. the last part of the track is exactly like montecarlo, so no way to pass dry or wet. The start straight is to short coming out from a medium speed 3 gear corner. At the end of the straight you will see somebody going out of slipstream, but passing that's a different story, maybe with wet. Corner 1,2 and 3 are just pass through so no overtake. the only real overtake point is going to be at turn 7 (90* corner) after a long wide strait, as the road is very wide and somebody could try to pass under braking even if still behind, possibility of crash there. other corner are all 90* with to short straits. It could be well boring as race, as environment should be very good the lights are very good.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 09:09  
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i did a complete lap yesterday walking. in city circuit is difficult to overtake, and more yesterday day have started to put plastic kerbs (about 6-8 cm high) in every corner. so basically the radius of the curve its even narrow now. More the track has not constant width some place is very large in other ridiculous narrow curve 10 (slow chicane) and especially 11, 12, and 13 are ridiculously narrow even for formula renault (they should have just let the track follow the real road), so no pass either dry or wet. the last part of the track is exactly like montecarlo, so no way to pass dry or wet. The start straight is to short coming out from a medium speed 3 gear corner. At the end of the straight you will see somebody going out of slipstream, but passing that's a different story, maybe with wet. Corner 1,2 and 3 are just pass through so no overtake. the only real overtake point is going to be at turn 7 (90* corner) after a long wide strait, as the road is very wide and somebody could try to pass under braking even if still behind, possibility of crash there. other corner are all 90* with to short straits. It could be well boring as race, as environment should be very good the lights are very good.

That's cool!! :p :)

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 09:18  
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Guys guys, have a look at this!!
http://www.f1journaal.be/f1_nieuws.aspx?34_5=3199
It's a video of the circuit, it's on a Belgian site but, the video is English :thumbsup:
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 09:53  
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Looks like it will be a wet race:

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/b ... k_business

I have played the Singapore track in a game, its fast but higly impossible to overtake.For sure we can expect same action like valencia. A boring race,but the only fun parts will be to see how they conduct the race in night.If it rains it can be a lottery for any team.Lets wait till the friday & saturday practice sessions. As everyone has marked out that qualifying will certainly be very important.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 12:08  
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After seeing the video, i now think there is no chance for overtaking whatsoever. That's even worse than Valencia. I mean, its just one corner after another, and if only one optimal line forms on the track, with all the marbles on the side, there will be 0 overtakings.

If there's rain that could change, but still. The track looks nice though.

And i really don't see the pit straight as a chance to overtake, because the 2 corners before it are something like the linked corners in Turkey... and we all know how easy is to follow a car through there :)
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 12:17  
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Turn six look like another flat-out kink before the cars turn left onto Nicoll Highway. This bend, turn seven, looks like being the most likely spot for overtaking as the cars should be at their maximum speed at this point.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 12:23  
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Why not drive around the track ourselves and see how it feels? :p

http://www.visitsingapore.com/racer/

Not a very goodlooking game, but a bit of fun anyway. Most difficult part for me was choosing red or blue car! :)

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 12:27  
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weather forecasts predict hot weather, and possible showers.
i cant wait, i leave on wednesday :D

go lewis!!!

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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 13:23  
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Why not drive around the track ourselves and see how it feels? :p

http://www.visitsingapore.com/racer/

Not a very goodlooking game, but a bit of fun anyway. Most difficult part for me was choosing red or blue car! :)

the game was ok but i took 2 min to complete while the fastest was 58 sec. Well and it is a ridiculous amount of loading time for that small game.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 14:25  
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Thanks for the game

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 16:39  
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Accroding to F1 Racing:
Weather Data for Singapore Sep 25-28
Year Rainfall
2007 - 67.5mm
2006 - 6.9mm
2005 - 4.3mm
2004 - 17.8mm
2003 - 54.9mm
2002 - 42.9mm
2001 - 4.6mm
2000 - 5.1mm
1999 - 10.9mm
1998 - 21.1mm


man, 2007 rainfall data - that's a very big jump from the last 3 years. i hope it would rain that much starting race time! (red flag for sure :) )

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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 17:09  
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phil1993 wrote:
Accroding to F1 Racing:
Weather Data for Singapore Sep 25-28
Year Rainfall
2007 - 67.5mm
2006 - 6.9mm
2005 - 4.3mm
2004 - 17.8mm
2003 - 54.9mm
2002 - 42.9mm
2001 - 4.6mm
2000 - 5.1mm
1999 - 10.9mm
1998 - 21.1mm


man, 2007 rainfall data - that's a very big jump from the last 3 years. i hope it would rain that much starting race time! (red flag for sure :) )


Maybe Vettel will go for the hattrick if he reads the weather forecast, hoping Fuji will be wet 2 :p

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 17:15  
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You guys know that this will be the 800th GP..? I'm reading it now from a Dutch website.
The 100th was won by Stirling Moss (1961)
The 200th was won by Jackie Stewart (1971)
The 300th was won by Ronnie Petterson (1978)
The 400th was won by Niki Lauda (1984)
The 500th was won by Nelson Piquet (1990)
The 600th was won by Jacques Villeneuve (1997)
The 700th was won by Giancarlo Fisichella (2003)

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