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Who will win the 2008 FORMULA 1 Italian Grand Prix ?
Poll ended at 14 Sep 2008, 15:30
Lewis Hamilton 28%  28%  [ 23 ]
Felipe Massa 37%  37%  [ 31 ]
Robert Kubica 13%  13%  [ 11 ]
Kimi Räikkönen 14%  14%  [ 12 ]
Nick Heidfeld 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Jarno Trulli 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Fernando Alonso 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Mark Webber 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Timo Glock 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 83
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 Italian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 10 Sep 2008, 22:10  
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I hope Kimi starts Q3 light and goes for pole. I remember him doing it a couple of times with McLaren in 2006. He needs to start a race from pole again, has been a long time. But Hamilton will be mighty strong at Monza, because he is one of the best under braking and he will be extra motivated because of Spa.

I hope for a dry race, we´ve had enough wet or partially wet races this year :)

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PostPosted: 10 Sep 2008, 22:53  
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I hope Kimi starts Q3 light and goes for pole. I remember him doing it a couple of times with McLaren in 2006. He needs to start a race from pole again, has been a long time. But Hamilton will be mighty strong at Monza, because he is one of the best under braking and he will be extra motivated because of Spa.

I hope for a dry race, we´ve had enough wet or partially wet races this year :)

You can never have enough wet races. :) Spa was only last few laps and the start.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 79° GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA
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I think Ferrari will make 1-2. Felipe Massa for the win! :D
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 79° GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA
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History
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The Monza autodrome has been the third permanent installation built in the world
after Brooklands in England (1907) and Indianapolis in America (1909).
It has always been the most important Italian autodrome and one of the most prestigious
places for motor events internationally.
Indeed, during its 84 years of activity, it has hosted 72 editions on 79 of the Italian
Grand Prix, 40 editions of the motorcycle Grand Prix of Nations, and 33 editions of
“1000 Kms” for Sport Prototype cars and many other races of many types of cars.
The construction of the Monza autodrome was decided in January 1922 by the
Automobile Club of Milan to satisfy the request of the Italian car industry involved in
sporting activities, and to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Club’s founding which
happened, in an embryonic form, in 1897 (the official founding was in 1903).
The project was supported by the president of the Automobile Club of Milan senator
Silvio Crespi and by its director Arturo Mercanti, who assigned the job to architect Alfredo
Rosselli.
Work began on May 15th 1922 and was completed in the record time of 110 days:
3500 workers were employed for the construction of the autodrome with 200 wagons,
30 lorries and a narrow-gauge railway 5 kilometres long.
The circuit included a high-speed loop 4.5 kilometres long featuring two banked curves
linked by two straights, each 1070 metres long. The two curves lay on an enbankment
rising 2.6 metres above the ground. These curves had a radius of 320 metres and made
a theoretical top speed of 180-190 kilometres per hour possible. The road track was 5.5
kilometres long, with a maximum roadbed width of 12 metres. The two straights intersected
on two levels in the Serraglio zone. The public was received in the central grandstand
(3000 seats), in six side stands entirely built of wood and masonry (1000 seats each),
and in some stands along the track.
After the autodrome’s official opening on September 3rd 1922, with a race run with
Voiturettes won by Pietro Bordino on a racing model Fiat 501, on September 10th the
2nd Italian Grand Prix took place, won again by Bordino on a Fiat 804. The 1st Italian
Grand Prix had taken place the year before at the Montichiari circuit, near Brescia, still
organised by the Automobile Club of Milan.
All the events were run on the full 10-kilometre track until 1928, when the Grand Prix
was temporarily suspended for two years, due to the serious accident occured to Materassi
(cars competed only in the Monza Grand Prix, run on the high-speed loop).
The Italian Grand Prix was run again in 1931 on the so-called “Florio circuit” (6800
metres), which made use only of the road track and the banked curve on the south. The
full circuit was used again in the following two years. From 1934 to 1938 an extensive
program of modifications to the racing facilities was put into effect: two banked curves
of “high-speed” were pulled down, the central straight was shifted westward and linked to the grandstand straight by two bends, called the “porphyry bends” due to the stone
paving applied.
Moreover, new pits and service buildings and a new grandstand were built. The new
track measured 6300 metres and could be used only from 1948 when the autodrome
resumed its activities after the war. In 1955, the high-speed loop was put back in use. This
track was 4250 metres long with banked curves with superelevation with slope increasing
progressively to 80% in the top band. The curves were built on reinforced concrete
structures instead of on an earth enbankment as originally, and were calculated for
theoretical top speeds of approx. 285 kilometres per hour. The road track’s length was
reduced to 5750 metres and the two “porphyry” bends were replaced by a curve with
a single pitch that was called the “parabolic” due to its increasing radius toward the exit.
Other improvements and enlargements were made to the service buildings. In 1959, a
track link was created connecting the grandstand straight with the central straight. This
link, together with the “parabolic” curve, gave rise to the Junior track (2405 metres long).
In 1961, a vast plan for safety works was put into effect, including the adoption of reinforced
fences and guard-rails. After the construction, in 1962, of the pavillion to house motor
cars and vehicles of historical interest, in 1963 the pit area was entirely rebuilt according
to more rational and modern standards, with a new 3-storey building for race control
officials.
To reduce the very high and dangerous speeds of Formula One cars, two chicanes were
built in 1972; the first was located on the grandstand straight , while the second was
situated at the entrance of the “Ascari” curve. These chicanes were modified between
1974 and 1976 and became proper variants. At the same time, another variant at the
entrance of the first Lesmo curve was built. These modifications brought the length of the
circuit to 5800 metres.
Between 1989 and 1990, the pit zone was completely renewed, by building a twostorey
structure measuring approx. 196 metres in length and about 13 metres in width,
occupying about the same space as the old pits. On the ground floor the pit system is
made up of 48 modular units, each having a 4 m frontage, that can be combined, thanks
to movable wall panels, to form 16 pits of 3 units each, suitable for 16 Formula 1 twocar
teams. The first floor is occupied by offices and hospitality rooms, as well as by a
welcoming and rational press room suitable to accomodate almost 400 journalists, with
rooms for telephone and fax services. The second terraced-floor is reserved as hospitality
area.
Avant-guarde systems for the management of the internal services of the autodrome
and for the gathering and transmission of track-data have also been realised.
In 1995, moreover, to comply with the security standards set by FIA, some modifications
were made to various parts of the track (“Grande” curve, Roggia variant, Lesmo curves),
without drastically changing the structure of the track, leaving the lay-out practically unchanged. The “Grande” curve and the whole section of the Lesmo curves were moved
back (with the contemporary reduction of their radii) to create bigger run-off spaces which
have now changed , in the most critical points, from 50 m to 118 m and from 20 m to 60
m, respectively. The Roggia variant design and radii have not been modified, but it has
been anticipated by approx. 50 metres to put it in a position with bigger run-off spaces.
The total length of the track has now been reduced to 5770 metres. In 1998 the finish
line had been withdrawn of 250 meters circa. Now it’s situated near tha entrance of the
pit lane. Among the most recent improvements, there also is the construction of a new
medical centre (larger and modern and located in an area easily accessible from the
paddock).
The last modification of the track in order of time dates back to summer 2000 when
the First Variante’s and Roggia Variante’s track sections have been redesigned to increase
the safety according to drivers’ and F.I.A. demands. The First Variante, above all, which
was made up by a double ess with left-right-left curves, had been trasformed in a double
right-left curve more narrow and slow that constrains the drivers to hold a speed of about
70-80 kh/h instead of about 110 hold previously. The track had been brought again along
the historic axis, while the left part of the asphalt is now used as a safety area. Of minor
importance is the modification worked on the Roggia Variante, the streght of which,
between the entrance and the exit, is been lengthened of 10 meters. These two operations
have increased the lenght of the Stradale Track from 5.770 to current 5.793 meters.
Concerning the logistic and services structures, in autumn 2001 has begun a big reconstructive
and contructive works of buildings that has been completed in its first step just before this
Grand Prix. The pit building has been lenghtened of 50 metres on the south flank to
increase the number of the pits from 48 to 60 and to create new areas for facilities and
race control. Now the pit building is 254,30 metres long. A new paddock for support
races, with track acces on Rettilineo centrale, has been built next to the F 1 paddock.
Near the nord flank of the pit building has been constructed a new three floor building
in which we find hospitalities, offices, data processing center and catering services.
Even the podium is new and now it is situated over the pit wall, connected by a platform
to the first floor of the pit building.
Other modifications regard the 4 metres enlargement of the pit lane and the new
location of the “villaggio”, with shops , bar, bank, now situated in the ex festival pavilion.
The old area of villaggio is now part of the paddock.
After this Grand Prix the works on the pit building will be completed with the enlargement
towards the paddock; its width will be increased from 12,90 metres to 21,50 metres.
Thanks to all these innovations, the Monza autodrome is today one of the most functional
and safest tracks in the world. And, what’s more, with a matchless history.


DRIVER'S BEST RACE RESULT BEST QUALIFYING RESULT
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N° DRIVER TOT BEST RACE RESULT BEST QUALIFYING RESULT
1 Räikkönen 7 2006       - 2° - McLaren 2006 - 1° - McLaren
2 Massa 5 2005          - 9° - McLaren 2007 - 3° - Ferrari
2006                - 9° - Ferrari
3 Heidfeld 7 2007       - 4° - Bmw Sauber 2006 - 3° - Bmw Sauber
4 Kubica 2 2006       - 3° - Bmw Sauber 2006 - 6°- Bmw Sauber
      2007         - 6° - Bmw Sauber 2007            
5 Alonso 6 2007       - 1° - McLaren 2007 - 1° - McLaren
6 Piquet
7 Rosberg 2 2007       - 6° - Williams 2007 - 8° - Williams
8 Nakajima
9 Coulthard 14 1997    - 1° - Mclaren 1995 - 1° - Williams
10 Webber 6 2003       - 7° - Jaguar 2003 - 11° - Jaguar
         2007       - 11° - Red Bull         
11 Trulli 11 2002       - 4° - Renault 2001 - 5° - Jordan
         2005      - 5° - Toyota
12 Glock
14 Bourdais
15 Vettel 1 2007       - 18° - Toro Rosso 2007 - 16° - Toro Rosso
16 Button 8 2004       - 3° - Bar 2005 - 3° - Bar
17 Barrichello 15 2002    - 1° - Ferrari 2004 - 1° - Ferrari
         2004      - 1° - Ferrari
20 Sutil 1 2007       - 19° - Spyker 2007 - 21° - Spyker
21 Fisichella 11 2005    - 3° - Renault 1997 - 3° - Jordan
22 Hamilton 1 2007       - 2° - McLaren 2007 - 2° - McLaren
23 Kovalainen 1 2007    - 7° - Renault 2007 - 7° - Renault

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 79° GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA
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This radar prediction shows the low pressure area associated with the rainfall. To view the future forecasts select one of the time intervals on the left of the main image, and to view the rainfall projection click Précipitations at the top of the page.

It’s been an unusually wet F1 season,Already we’ve had rain at Monaco (wet-dry), Silverstone (wet-wetter) and Belgium (damp-dry-damp). There was a very brief rain showed during the French round as well. Last year also saw three races affected by rain: Europe (Nurburgring), Japan and China.
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This season is wetter than 2007

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I blame Global Warming :p

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Ferrari will be strong here , They dominated the Monza track in the past decade. Ferrari drivers won 6 out of the last 10 races here, 3 of those wins were 1-2 finishes for the red cars. Last year however the Ferraris were humiliated on their home soil by their bitter rivals from McLaren who scored 1-2 finish, Alonso winning (his last race win to date) ahead of Lewis Hamilton.

I Think Kimi will Finish 1st , Lewis 2nd and Massa DNF :p
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iceman1 wrote:
Ferrari will be strong here , They dominated the Monza track in the past decade. Ferrari drivers won 6 out of the last 10 races here, 3 of those wins were 1-2 finishes for the red cars. Last year however the Ferraris were humiliated on their home soil by their bitter rivals from McLaren who scored 1-2 finish, Alonso winning (his last race win to date) ahead of Lewis Hamilton.

I Think Kimi will Finish 1st , Lewis 2nd and Massa DNF :p

well i think it will be the other way round
massa 1st, lewis 2nd, kimi dnf :n
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If it rains.. Lewis DNF, Kimi DNF, Massa DNF.. :)

Just kidding. But something crazy will happen, I can tell already.
You get odd senses and anticipations coming up to a Grand Prix. Sometimes they're wrong. I thought Valencia would be great. But sometimes they're right. I thought Spa would be crazy. And how right I was (well kind of).

Ok, then, I still predict a surprise winner. I'll stick with Kovalainen.

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TwistedArmco wrote:
If it rains.. Lewis DNF, Kimi DNF, Massa DNF.. :)
i would love it :D

Nick 1st, Sutil 2nd, fisi 3 :) Ferrari & Mclaren dnf

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TwistedArmco wrote:
Ok, then, I still predict a surprise winner. I'll stick with Kovalainen.

or Maybe Alonso :p ?
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iceman1 wrote:
TwistedArmco wrote:
Ok, then, I still predict a surprise winner. I'll stick with Kovalainen.

or Maybe Alonso :p ?

Do you have the Safety Car laps this time? (screencaps)
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iceman1 wrote:
TwistedArmco wrote:
Ok, then, I still predict a surprise winner. I'll stick with Kovalainen.

or Maybe Alonso :p ?


If I predict an Alonso win, it just won't happen, mate. So I don't. But of course I secretly hope. :pray: and pray..

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Sorry TA, your kinda tempting fate.Anyway I like Alonso,he's a great driver who fell victim of team politics last year.He may get a win if we get a Nurburgring 99 race,but I doubt that.However if it rains I'm genuinely scared about visibility.The spray down the straights will be terrible,and the trees that line the circuit will create more spray problems.Also the track's never been properly wet in a race (2004 wasn't really a wet race) so we don't know how the track will respond. There could be chaos and a lot of incidents reminiscent of Schumi/Coulthard and Fisi/Nakano at Spa 98 if the drivers aren't careful or even lucky.
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