2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix

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Who will win the 2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix ?

Poll ended at 07 Sep 2008, 15:34

Lewis Hamilton
22
25%
Felipe Massa
29
33%
Kimi Räikkönen
27
31%
Robert Kubica
5
6%
Heikki Kovalainen
0
No votes
Nick Heidfeld
2
2%
Jarno Trulli
1
1%
Fernando Alonso
1
1%
Mark Webber
0
No votes
Timo Glock
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 87

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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix

Post by Ali » 07 Sep 2008, 15:40

phil1993 wrote:My first attempt: Driver Ratings and reviews for Belgium

That was a good try Phil, well done and thanks :thumbsup:
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Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 15:41

thanks. i'll make it a regular thing in the future (as well as the GP aerial pics preview), but make the boxes bigger/writing smaller. i found i ran out of space too often.

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Post by Zack » 07 Sep 2008, 15:42

scermat wrote:
Zack wrote:
scermat wrote:but please cut the lewis took unfair advantage c**p!

care to explain why Hamilton didn't got advantage? was that move other way possible?


Lifting on the straight (after being pushed wide) is not gaining an advantage. :roll:

kimi blocked by swerving more than allowed lewis tucked down the inside, kimi turned in late and hit lewis and that was that. so no, no unfair advantage there. especially since kimi did half his last lap running flat out on tarmac run off areas. (like pouhon). OH NOES! UNFAIR ADVANTAGE FOR KIMI! :(

kimi sucked. deal with it. dont try put the blame on lewis. (well if lewis gets DQd kimi will DEFINITELY be number 2 then anyway. bleh)


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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix

Post by swca92 » 07 Sep 2008, 15:47

OFF TOPIC-See the posts for this thread,is it a record???

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Yes, it is a record

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Post by Fergie1 » 07 Sep 2008, 15:49

I suspect we will have more stewards decisions within the next hour.

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Post by scermat » 07 Sep 2008, 15:50

30 seconds for lewis would be perfect :)
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Post by JoostLamers » 07 Sep 2008, 15:51

phil1993 wrote:well, joost. text me the current weather when u r in monza :p and act as "our" man at the track.

haha, I think that will be pretty expensive :p I don't know if there's an internet connection at our hotel, if there is, I will try to post something here :thumbsup:

My uncle was just here, he just left. Thursday he'll be here at 6 in the morning :p ... haha
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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix

Post by TwistedArmco » 07 Sep 2008, 15:52

phil1993 wrote:thanks. i'll make it a regular thing in the future (as well as the GP aerial pics preview), but make the boxes bigger/writing smaller. i found i ran out of space too often.


You ever fancied journalism? :cool:

That is veeery good. ^
Tone is good, vocab is good, slightly irreverent, which I also like too - great stuff, Phil. :thumbsup:

One tip - wait till that evening to do the race reports. Timo Glock just got slapped a 25 second penalty, while the investigation about Lewis and Kimi is still pending (not that anything will happen)..
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Post by JoostLamers » 07 Sep 2008, 15:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmL9ODG1ZPY
this is it guys, the 'incident'...
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Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 15:55

TwistedArmco wrote:
phil1993 wrote:thanks. i'll make it a regular thing in the future (as well as the GP aerial pics preview), but make the boxes bigger/writing smaller. i found i ran out of space too often.


You ever fancied journalism? :cool:

That is veeery good. ^
Tone is good, vocab is good, slightly ireverent, which I also like too - great stuff, Phil. :thumbsup:

One tip - wait till that evening to do the race reports. Timo Glock just got slapped a 25 second penalty, while the investigation about Lewis and Kimi is still pending (not that anything will happen)..


yep, thanks. i would consider a career in journalism but i just try not to use slang at the moment as my GCSEs are next May and i don't want to get into the habit of using improper English. I'll upload an edited version with more writing later. That one is a prototype.

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Post by JoostLamers » 07 Sep 2008, 15:58

Raikkonen: "I played all or nothing"..."I thought there are rules, for cutting chicanes, but It's not me to decide about this"
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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 07 Sep 2008, 16:01

Driver Quotes after the ING Belgian Grand Prix 2008

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (1st):
To follow.

Felipe Massa, Ferrari (2nd):
To follow.

Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber (3rd):
"I had a fantastic race weekend and I am very happy today. At the start I got off better than the guys in front of me. Then I decided to go for the outside line, but unfortunately Heikki Kovalainen crashed into my car. This can happen, and I was lucky my car wasn't damaged. Of course I lost a lot of places. Later on in the race I was able to get some back, but then I got stuck in traffic. When the drizzle set in I was convinced it would be heavier on the next lap and decided to change to wet weather tyres. The team asked me if I meant what I said. When I left the pit lane after the stop I asked on the radio how many laps to go, and my engineer said this one and another one. As I couldn't see any cars on the track I thought, oh this was probably the wrong decision, but then it paid off. It was a Hero or Zero decision."

Fernando Alonso, Renault (4th):
"We finished fourth after a difficult race with plenty of incidents. It's a good result for the team, especially for our position in the championship because our objective was to score some important points. We missed out on a podium today, but we have shown that we can be the third strongest team in the championship."

Sebastian Vettel, Toro Rosso (5th):
“Both me and Seb have good reason to smile after a race like that. The last lap was unbelievable and I was shocked as I got passed in the last fifty metres and then Heidfeld followed by Alonso drove past me with a 'whoosh' on their intermediates. It was very tricky at the end and you really had to trust your car. We were all saying that Eau Rouge and Blanchimont are now flat, but with a few drops of rain, I tell you, you see the real nature of these corners. Overall it was a fantastic race, even though I was stuck in traffic for a while. But I was very happy with the car and we had a very strong pace today. The guys at the front are still in a different dimension, but we have made some good steps forward and now it is up to us to use that potential at the next few races.”

Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (6th):
"I am not happy with the result, as today I had the chance to finish on the podium. We had a problem during the second pit stop. I lost two or three positions and returned to the track behind Nick. When it started raining he went into the pits to change tyres. I could not do the same as it would have cost too much time because I was directly behind Nick, so it would have meant us coming into the pits together. Also I had no information about the weather as I had problems with my radio. We gave away points today. However, that's racing."

Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso (7th):
“On the last lap it was a lottery with the car getting away from you with every turn of the wheel. It’s a horrible situation, as everything had been under control up until then. But I am not in a situation where I can risk everything and at the end of the race I didn’t even know where I finished. It was so close to being a great result I felt I could almost touch it and so it was a very frustrating way to finish what was a great weekend up to that point. Such a shame, but nevertheless a very strong result for the team.”

Timo Glock, Toyota (8th):
"I had quite a tricky race but I am pleased with a point because for a long time today it looked like we would not be able to achieve that. I have to say thank you to the team, especially the guys who work on the starts because it was mega for both cars and in the last couple of races they have done a perfect job. I couldn't make up as many places as I wanted at the first corner because I saw Sebastien Bourdais slide into Jarno (Trulli) and I thought there would be a mess so I tried to stay out of it. Then for the first couple of laps I couldn't get any heat into the tyres. I struggled quite a lot and lost a few places. When the rain started I made the decision to come in and change to standard wet tyres and it was the right thing to do. It was not easy but I just got past Mark Webber in the last corner and took the final point."

Mark Webber, Red Bull (9th):
“The first few laps were quite tricky due to the conditions, but our start was okay. I was running a bit short and when doing that it helps to have a clear track, but I didn’t. I lost some time behind Bourdais, who was a bit heavier, but we were still in a reasonable position. Then I got hit by Heikki (Kovalainen) and lost some time. It hurt our strategy, which was quite aggressive. The car felt best in the last stint on the prime tyres. It’s a shame we didn’t get any points today, the guys had put a lot of effort in.”

Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren (10th):
To follow.

David Coulthard, Red Bull (11th):
“I got held up a lot behind the Hondas at the start and it was hard to make up positions from there. We have poor drivability. The changeable conditions made things interesting at the end, we could probably have changed to intermediate tyres one lap earlier."

Nico Rosberg, Williams (12th):
"It wasn’t such an exciting race for me today. Ultimately I did the best I could from where I started and the performance we had in the car and, I think adding all this up, 12th is probably about the best we could have achieved. At the end of the race we had to make the difficult judgement to come in for the wet tyres, and although we didn’t make any gain, I still think it was a good decision to take. Overall then, it wasn’t a good weekend for us and now we need to look forward to Monza and try to improve things. After the recent test there we are confident that it is a track that will suit us better."

Adrian Sutil, Force India (13th):
"It was a strong race for us, with a good performance. We had quite a lot of fights on the circuit and lots of overtaking. I caught up with Button and was right behind him, but then there was the rain in the last laps. As there were just a couple of laps left and we were quite quick on the wet conditions with dry tyres, we stayed out and I could pass him and some other guys. I am quite happy with this race."

Kazuki Nakajima, Williams (14th):
"Today was a difficult race for me. I had a bit of contact in the first corner which cost me some time, so from then on I just tried to maintain a consistent pace because I was on a one-stop strategy. Given this, I think my race pace was not bad compared with those around me. I made some progress during the race, then just at the end, the rain came and it was a tough call to either to stay on the slicks or try to see what the wets might do for us. In the end we made the stop and changed the tyres, but we didn’t have enough time to make up any ground."

Jenson Button, Honda (15th):
"It's been a tough weekend and unfortunately the car's performance has been a long way off where I thought we would be here in Spa. I didn't have a great start from 17th and got completely boxed in with cars everywhere that I wanted to go. I then lost some time in the train of cars caught behind Rubens when he had his gearbox problem. The car was not handling well at all throughout the first stint as I had no grip and very little balance. So when I came in and switched to the prime tyre, we added front wing which I thought we needed, but not having had the the opportunity to compare the two tyres yesterday, this unfortunately gave me too much front end. Our rear tyre pressures were also too low which made the car very difficult to drive."

Jarno Trulli, Toyota (16th):
"I was very unlucky because I had a great start and from 11th I was in the top six, but I was hit really hard from the back and this damaged the car. After that the car was undrivable and on top of that the accident caused a gearbox problem, so my only target was to finish the race. Once again I wasn't very lucky here - it seems to happen too often at Spa that I am competitive but I have bad luck. I was hoping we could have a strong race and score some points. This was possible because we had a competitive strategy and a great start so it's a shame that we couldn't manage to do it."

Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India (17th):
"Unfortunately Nakajima spun and came across in front of my car and I broke the front wing and damaged the car quite a lot. Coming back to the pits I lost a lot of time as I had no front wing and punctured tyres. Unfortunately when I went out of the pitlane I was just in front of the leaders and then had blue flags at least 40 times! Towards the end of the race, looking at the weather I called the box and said I wanted to put on the rain tyres. It was the right choice but there were just two or three laps left and it would have been nice to have those conditions earlier, but I think considering the start the end result was not too bad."

Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (18th):
To follow. [still drowning his sorrows in a pool of Smirnoff]

Rubens Barrichello, Honda (DNF):
"The race was actually going quite well for me but unfortunately I lost sixth gear not long after I overtook Trulli. I tried to keep going but with the way that the gearbox works, you have to go through sixth gear before you can get seventh gear, which caused over-revving of the engine and the potential for significant damage. The team decided it would be best to retire the car as this is my first race with this engine and I have to race with it at Monza next weekend. Overall it has not been a great weekend. Our biggest problem has been our struggle to get temperature into the tyres, which affected our performance very badly."

Nelson Piquet, Renault (DNF):
"The plan was to run a one-stop strategy today and so my car was heavy on fuel. I made a good start and gained five places, which was encouraging, but there were still some damp patches on the circuit and I made a mistake. It's a shame because I'm sure we could have done something today. I want to remain positive and I'm now looking forward to Monza, where we tested last week. I hope we can have a strong race there."

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Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 Belgian Grand Prix

Post by swca92 » 07 Sep 2008, 16:02

That review,its genuinely good,I say bung it in the magazine.I spotted a couple of errors (e.g. "Stilled nabbed" ) but its good.If we have a summary/synopsis of each race put it in the magazine. Also I loved the "Stylishly Lucky" comment about Hamilton,sums things up perfectly.

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