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Who will win the 2008 FORMULA 1 European Grand Prix ?
Poll ended at 24 Aug 2008, 16:50
Lewis Hamilton 28%  28%  [ 21 ]
Kimi Räikkönen 38%  38%  [ 29 ]
Felipe Massa 24%  24%  [ 18 ]
Robert Kubica 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
Nick Heidfeld 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jarno Trulli 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Fernando Alonso 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Mark Webber 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Timo Glock 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 76
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PostPosted: 03 Aug 2008, 16:37  
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2008 FORMULA 1 European Grand Prix
LII Telefónica Grand Prix of Europe (official)
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Valencia Street Circuit

Race Date: 24th August 2008
Laps: 57
Lap Distance: 5,440 km
Race Distance: 310,080 km
Lap Record: n/a (1.29,468 - M Schumacher (2004) at Nürburgring / 1.25,040 - M Schumacher (1994) at Jerez)

Wikipedia information:

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Although it will be the first race at Valencia, the European Grand Prix has been held 17 times in Formula One. Fernando Alonso won the 2007 European Grand Prix at the Nürburgring, Germany for McLaren-Mercedes. He and Rubens Barrichello are the only former European Grand Prix winners in the field.

The European Grand Prix has been held in Spain twice before, both times at Jerez de la Frontera. The 1994 race was won by Michael Schumacher, whilst the 1997 race was made infamous by Michael Schumacher's attempt to run Championship rival Jacques Villeneuve off the track, handing Villeneuve the title. Mika Häkkinen eventually won the race.


Current Driver Standings

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01 Lewis Hamilton 62
02 Kimi Räikkönen 57
03 Felipe Massa 54
04 Robert Kubica 49
05 Nick Heidfeld 41
06 Heikki Kovalainen 38
07 Jarno Trulli 22
08 Fernando Alonso 18
09 Mark Webber 18
10 Timo Glock 13
11 Nelsinho Piquet 13
12 Rubens Barrichello 11
13 Nico Rosberg 8
14 Kazuki Nakajima 8


Current Constructeur Standings

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01 Ferrari 111
02 McLaren-Mercedes 100
03 BMW Sauber 90
04 Toyota 35
05 Renault 31
06 Red Bull-Renault 24
07 Williams-Toyota 16
08 Honda 14
09 STR-Ferrari 8
10 Force India-Ferrari 0


Winners 1994-2007***

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1994*: Michael Schumacher  Benetton-Renault B194
1995**: Michael Schumacher  Benetton-Renault B195  1:39.59,044 = 183,180 km/h
1996**: Jaques Villeneuve  Williams-Renault FW18-5  1:33.26,473 = 196,006 km/h
1997*: Mika Häkkinen  McLaren-Mercedes MP4-12A  1:38.57,771 = 185,240 km/h
1999**: Johnny Herbert  Stewart-Ford SF3  1:41.54,314 = 177,034 km/h
2000**: Michael Schumacher  Ferrari F2000  1:42.00,307 = 179,540 km/h
2001**: Michael Schumacher  Ferrari F2001  1:29.42,724 = 204,143 km/h
2002**: Rubens Barrichello  Ferrari F2002  1:35.07,426 = 194,741 km/h
2003**: Ralf Schumacher  Williams-BMW FW25  1:34.43,622 = 195,633 km/h
2004**: Michael Schumacher  Ferrari F2004  1:32.35,101 = 200,159 km/h
2005**: Fernando Alonso  Renault R25  1:31.46,648 = 198,555 km/h
2006**: Michael Schumacher  Ferrari 248-F1  1:35.58,765 = 193,080 km/h
2007**: Fernando Alonso  McLaren-Mercedes MP4-21  2:06.26,358 = 146,566 km/h


*= held at Jerez
**= held at Nürburgring
***=no European Grand Prix held in 1998


TIMETABLE

Friday, 22nd August 2008

FP 1: 10.00 to 11.30
FP 2: 14.00 to 15.30

Saturday, 23rd August 2008

FP 3: 11.00 to 12.00
Qualifying: 14.00

Sunday, 24th August 2008

Race: 14.00

- All times are race local times (GMT +1/UTC +2)

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Programs used: Sopcast, TVU Player, PPMate, TV Ants
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CHANNEL            STREAM          STREAM ID  TYPE                FP1  FP2  FP3  Qualifying  Race 
ITV                ITV Web         N/A        Flash - Web based     X    X                X     X
SpeedTV            Wheels          N/A        TVU Player                 X                X     X       
Star Sports        Star Sports     10005      TVU Player                                  X     X
                   Star Sports     N/A        PPMate                                      X     X
CCTV5              CCTV5           10007      TVUPlayer                                         X
                   CCTV5           6002       SopCast                                           X 
RTL                RTL Web         N/A        MMS - Web based                             X     X
Eurosport France   Eurosport (?)   N/A        TVAnts                X    X    X                     


Links:
ITV F1Stream , Wheels, Star Sports TVU, Star Sports PPMate, CCTV 5 SopCast, CCTV 5 TVU, CCTV 5 TVAnts, CCTV 5 PPMate, RTL
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  • There should be a SopCast stream for FP3, but it is very unstable due to it's high load and will suffer from a lot of buffering. Avoid it if you can.
  • Possible stream for GP2: Web, Player only (works in Media Player Classic)

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 European Grand Prix
PostPosted: 03 Aug 2008, 19:06  
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Hard to make any predictions... Considering that it´s a street circuit the same teams and drivers like in monaco and hungary should be up front.
maybe fernando can surprise us again in qualifying like he did in spain.
I´m really looking forward to this race the track video on youtube looks great.

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this is a bit early isn't it?

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[s](please admin if any problem remove this post)[/s] ...Zack not a prob

Valencia Street Circuit.

Is a GT race:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NPqlkicO9U[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NPqlkicO9U

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAzqDuWNa2M[/youtube]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAzqDuWNa2M[/youtube]


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Can't wait for the Next GP is it ?? Great going ! A street circuit after Monaco, so lets wait and see, what teams have in their kit bag for this one !!
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Q: Are you looking forward to Valencia and how do you prepare for it?
FA: I am really looking forward to Valencia, and I think we all are! It is Spain, it is summer, so we will all enjoy and it will be a big party time for Formula One. In terms of preparation I watched some videos from Formula Three and what I have seen is that the circuit seems to be very well prepared, even though there is still some work to do before Formula One arrives. But it’s not like a normal street course. It seems very wide, more like an American type of street circuit. Unfortunately we do not have any simulator with the ability of simulating this kind of course. Luckily I had a friend at the Formula Three race in Valencia who did a lap in a normal road car with a camera. But unless you run with a Formula One car, most of the things are useless. For Valencia we need to maximize the Friday practice when we arrive there, as this is the only way to improve.


Ferrari are using telemetry from the Ferrari Corse GT team to try and learn at least a little bit of the circuit before heading there
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you can download the full International GT Open race from RU if you want. track looks impressive, but the background in places looks, well, shabby.

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Nah i am Playing Rfactor :p Good layout but the grip is Very low on the track
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rfactor, wanna buy it but i dont have the money for it :(

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phil1993 wrote:
rfactor, wanna buy it but i dont have the money for it :(

I don't condone it (just to cover myself :p ) but there is always torrents.
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i think the friday practice sessions would be worth watching this time. In most of the races in this session drivers only start whe nthere is 3o min left, but this time the circuit might be packed from the start.
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Should be an interesting race,with all the unknowns of a new track,and the championship being so close. As its a street circuit you'd fancy McLaren to have the edge,but,this race particularly,the words of Murray Walker ("Anything could happen in Formula 1 and it usually does") will ring true
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I hope that there will be a breath-taking race. I think the outcome of this race will be a bit in the direction of the Monaco-GP. A McLaren win, poor Ferrari and some of the mid-field teams in unusual positions.
BTW, does anybody knows in which direction the weather will go until the race ?

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Well, if you remember, Ferrari dominated Monaco in dry conditions with a stunning front row lockout. So if it's dry and hot in Valencia, which is what it should be, I'd expect the trend to continue. McLaren makes the best use of unexpected circumstances, though.

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from what I see on the onboard video, it looks like a circuit without too many overtaking possibilitys.
Also I feel that the safety car might come out with all these walls, what do you reckon?
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