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Who will win the 2008 German Grand Prix ?
Kimi Räikkönen 40%  40%  [ 32 ]
Felipe Massa 14%  14%  [ 11 ]
Lewis Hamilton 26%  26%  [ 21 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Nick Heidfeld 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
Robert Kubica 7%  7%  [ 6 ]
Jarno Trulli 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Mark Webber 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Fernando Alonso 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 German Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2008, 16:41  
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Did anyone happen to see the video of Kimi at the German Gp. If you don't know what I'm talking about ...
http://jalopnik.com/398970/kimi-raikkon ... oplay=true



Certainly it wasn't kimi's fault... but please... not stopping to see if the child is ok is just the behaviour of a bastard :<>: ... I think we all stop if a child fall near us... Is he too important to care for people??

Sorry, but if there is something I really hate is not care about children...
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PostPosted: 22 Jul 2008, 18:23  
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Cycling is a team sport, as football (soccer), basketball. Formula1, MotoGp, and other are not TEAM sport. First is to win. If not, win your teammate.


Does anyone else for this statement contradictory? :!:


My english is not very good, but. with () any explication
Formula1, MotoGp, and other are NOT TEAM sport. First is to win (races and/or championship). If not (if you can not win races unless be faster than your teammate), win your teammate.
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PostPosted: 22 Jul 2008, 18:41  
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Certainly historically Driver title has more value in motor sports.

btw ..Not sure ... ESPN Star Sports coverage showed Ron Dennis engaged button in pit lane ..and the next moment Heikki moved aside.

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PostPosted: 22 Jul 2008, 20:11  
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Massa is an imbecile, Lewis showed them how to drive, McLaren team uses team orders - which is forbbiden.
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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 03:26  
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hannibal_rising wrote:
uncleben wrote:
Did anyone happen to see the video of Kimi at the German Gp. If you don't know what I'm talking about ...
http://jalopnik.com/398970/kimi-raikkon ... oplay=true



Certainly it wasn't kimi's fault... but please... not stopping to see if the child is ok is just the behaviour of a bastard :<>: ... I think we all stop if a child fall near us... Is he too important to care for people??

Sorry, but if there is something I really hate is not care about children...


Thank you
I felt the same way thats why I felt I should post it, and I don't want Ferrari to win again.
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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 05:36  
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So childish.. :p
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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 06:58  
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only one question in my head i think hamilton its half a second faster than heiki

but in this race was a second or a second in a half, that too much for
both have the same car or hamilton had a better evolution :huh:

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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 09:37  
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I think in normal circumstances when both pushing like crazy, Heikki is three-tenths slower. Then if he doesn't get his setup right, it's slower even than that. I think it would be fair to say that the team concentrates the majority of its efforts on Lewis, like last year.

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^^^ only difference this year its done silently and with cooperative Heikki :P
I don't expect Ron Dennis to make equality statement ever again.You simply can't fool your supporter every year :p :lol:

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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 11:10  
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Will Support kimi forever
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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 11:40  
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hannibal_rising wrote:
uncleben wrote:
Did anyone happen to see the video of Kimi at the German Gp. If you don't know what I'm talking about ...
http://jalopnik.com/398970/kimi-raikkon ... oplay=true



Certainly it wasn't kimi's fault... but please... not stopping to see if the child is ok is just the behaviour of a bastard :<>: ... I think we all stop if a child fall near us... Is he too important to care for people??

Sorry, but if there is something I really hate is not care about children...


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Will Support kimi forever


me too.!! !yahoo:
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 German Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 12:36  
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TwistedArmco your right.
when lewis is CLEARLY the quicker driver(like in silverstone), the team should favour him, as he will have a better chance of winning and/or challenging the drivers ahead of him. pretty much the same thing every other race team will do. quicker driver is always favoured. if heikki cant get his pace the same as lewis, mclaren wont focus on him winning. they will try get him as high as HE can in the points. and let lewis go for it all.

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Hamilton, really was not faster as many of you said. 1st, He didn't do faster lap, was Heidfield. 2nd, a lot of driver can drive faster because he was behind other (for example, Alonso was behind Trulli, Kimi, Vettel and Webber, but never can push to get a good lap; kimi has the same problem; Massa is special)

POS NO DRIVER NAT ENTRANT TIME ON GAP KPH TIME OF DAY
1 3 N. HEIDFELD GER BMW Sauber F1 Team 1:15.987 52 216.700 15:14:54
2 22 L. HAMILTON GBR Vodafone McLaren Mercedes 1:16.039 17 0.052 216.552 14:24:49
3 1 K. RAIKKONEN FIN Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 1:16.342 0.355 0.303 66 215.692 15:33:20
4 23 H. KOVALAINEN FIN Vodafone McLaren Mercedes 1:16.495 0.508 0.153 63 215.261 15:29:26
5 2 F. MASSA BRA Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 1:16.502 0.515 0.007 19 215.241 14:27:34
6 4 R. KUBICA POL BMW Sauber F1 Team 1:16.610 0.623 0.108 17 214.937 14:25:08
http://www.fia.com/germanygp/documents/ ... t_Laps.pdf

Hamilton-Kova 1:16.495-1:16.039 = 0:00.456
HEIDFELD-Kubica 1:16.610-1:15.987 = 0:00:623

http://www.fia.com/germanygp/documents/ ... alysis.pdf
Hamilton second pit stop was on lap 51, and he overtake kovalainen on lap 52. Kovalinen lap 52, was 2 second slower than before. So Kovalainen had to stop for two second, to let Hamilton pass him
51 1:17.985
52 1:19.236
53 1:17.819
54 1:17.817

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1 German Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Jul 2008, 16:50  
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dacer wrote:
Hamilton, really was not faster as many of you said. 1st, He didn't do faster lap, was Heidfield. 2nd, a lot of driver can drive faster because he was behind other (for example, Alonso was behind Trulli, Kimi, Vettel and Webber, but never can push to get a good lap; kimi has the same problem; Massa is special)

POS NO DRIVER NAT ENTRANT TIME ON GAP KPH TIME OF DAY
1 3 N. HEIDFELD GER BMW Sauber F1 Team 1:15.987 52 216.700 15:14:54
2 22 L. HAMILTON GBR Vodafone McLaren Mercedes 1:16.039 17 0.052 216.552 14:24:49
3 1 K. RAIKKONEN FIN Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 1:16.342 0.355 0.303 66 215.692 15:33:20
4 23 H. KOVALAINEN FIN Vodafone McLaren Mercedes 1:16.495 0.508 0.153 63 215.261 15:29:26
5 2 F. MASSA BRA Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 1:16.502 0.515 0.007 19 215.241 14:27:34
6 4 R. KUBICA POL BMW Sauber F1 Team 1:16.610 0.623 0.108 17 214.937 14:25:08
http://www.fia.com/germanygp/documents/ ... t_Laps.pdf

Hamilton-Kova 1:16.495-1:16.039 = 0:00.456
HEIDFELD-Kubica 1:16.610-1:15.987 = 0:00:623

http://www.fia.com/germanygp/documents/ ... alysis.pdf
Hamilton second pit stop was on lap 51, and he overtake kovalainen on lap 52. Kovalinen lap 52, was 2 second slower than before. So Kovalainen had to stop for two second, to let Hamilton pass him
51 1:17.985
52 1:19.236
53 1:17.819
54 1:17.817

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Despite all of that information..........

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Statistics can prove anything.

Out of the last 7 races, Kimi has had the fastest lap 6 times.

How many of those races has he won?

:roll::

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