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Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix
Poll ended at 24 May 2008, 14:36
Kimi Raikkonen 38%  38%  [ 41 ]
Felipe Massa 7%  7%  [ 8 ]
Lewis Hamilton 39%  39%  [ 42 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Robert Kubica 9%  9%  [ 10 ]
Nick Heidfeld 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Fernando Alonso 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 109
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PostPosted: 18 May 2008, 19:30  
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flashback to 1996 anyone?

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PostPosted: 18 May 2008, 19:57  
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Monaco 1996: only 3 cars really finish the race (Heinz-Harald Frentzen was in pits at checkered flag). Oliver Panis won despite he qualify 14.
Name.......................Finish...........Grid
Olivier Panis..................1...............14
David Coulthard..............2.................5
Johnny Herbert...............3................13
Heinz-Harald Frentzed......4 (-1 lap).......9 in pits at checkered flag
Mika Salo......................5 (-5 lap).......11 retire-accident
Mika Hakkinen................6 (-5 lap)........8 retire-accident
Eddie Irvine....................7 (-7 lap)........7 retire-accident
Jacques Villeneuve...........8 (-9 lap)......10 retire-accident

None of the 4 front qualifiers finish the race.
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PostPosted: 18 May 2008, 20:07  
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I hope it rains. Otherwise it may become a snoozefest.
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PostPosted: 18 May 2008, 21:25  
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1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen?
2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites?
3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki?
4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit?
5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco?
6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong?

Firstly i don't think BMW will win. Or Kimi for that matter, think Massa or Hamilton will win, but I think Hamilton will do it. I wasn't such a big fan before but his drive last time out was great. Mind you its the same as last year due to his agressive risky style at monaco that he'll either win it or bin it. Ok he didn't do either last year, but I feel that could happen this time.

Alonso will get points, but no more. The King will return in 09... I hope... lol

I want Lewis or Massa to win, im impartial but I want a title race.

As for 96! What a race, same with 97! Hpefully rain is on... but it said it would for Turkey and that never happened :(
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PostPosted: 18 May 2008, 22:50  
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phil1993 wrote:
flashback to 1996 anyone?


why not like 1997? It could show who's the real rainmaster in F1 at present :p
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PostPosted: 19 May 2008, 01:48  
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    1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen?
    maybe, i am not sure that Ferrari can win this GP, but i hope Kimi will repeat his win in 2005 !yahoo:
    2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites?
    :blink: ....... No.
    3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki?
    i guess McLaren-Mercedes will show strong performance in Monaco. L. Hamilton won all his races in Monaco within GP2 Series.
    4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit?
    I think they can, and maybe R. Cobica will fight on the poll position.
    5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco?
    Renault is too far off the pace, I think Alonso will become 7th or 8th.
    6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong?

Maybe, I think Renault, Toyota, and Red Bull will have their own race between each other.
PS: Feel Free to share other your opinions or views.
Driving without traction control within this circuit and with rain (if it will rain) and the safety car rules, i think the race will become special and maybe similar to Australian GP 2008 . i hope we will see awesome race.
I want to put Kimi's flying lap for the pole position in Monaco GP 2005 !yahoo: Flag:##
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHy_ieU3Pc[/youtube]
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PostPosted: 19 May 2008, 06:50  
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Richards19 wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
flashback to 1996 anyone?


why not like 1997? It could show who's the real rainmaster in F1 at present :p


1997 Only 10 cars finish the race and the winner was Michael Schumacher.
With about 30 minutes to go before the start the first raindrops began to fall, just a few and then a few more. It was not enough to worry about having to run with wet tires.
In those days when the team/driver made the decisions, Michael decided to use wet rubber, the rest of the field decided for intermediate or slicks, with a few exceptions.
At the end of lap one Michael had 6.6 secs advantage, it was 11.5 sec on lap two, 15.7 sec. on lap three and 22.1 s by the end of the fifth lap. When his advantage was nearly 30 sec he backed off and began to maintain the gap.
.....................................................Finish .......Grid
Michael Schumacher....Ferrari..................01...........2
Rubens Barrichello....Stewart-Ford.............02..........10
Eddie Irvine.............Ferrari..................03..........15
Olivier Panis.........Prost-Mugen-Honda........04..........12
Mika Salo.................Tyrrell-Ford.............05..........14
Giancarlo Fisichella..Jordan-Peugeot.......,,..06...........4
Jan Magnussen.........Stewart-Ford.............07..........19
Jos Verstappen...........Tyrrell-Ford.............08..........22
Gerhard Berger........Benetton-Renault.........09..........17
Ukyo Katayama.........Minardi-Hart.............10..........20

The only front runners to finish the race were Michael and Fisichella. This time Oliver Panis couldn't win the race, like he did in 1996
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PostPosted: 19 May 2008, 09:40  
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1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen?
Yes, because this year Ferrari has a better car than the last season's car, this year car has a shorter wheelbase so that will make easier for Kimi and Felipe to drive around this circuit

2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites?
No, this track is not his favorite, so I don't think he would win

3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki?
I think they still remain the main rival for Ferrari, Hamilton seems have an advantage more than Kovalainen in this track

4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit?
Their target is still to beat McLaren, but I think McLaren and Ferrari still remain as two top teams

5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco?
I don't think so, because this year is so different, he got a midfield car so I think he will finish in the points

6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong?
Red Bull has a great record in this track, so I think Red Bull will be strong here, but not for Toyota

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PostPosted: 19 May 2008, 16:47  
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Brawn: Monaco may be incident-filled
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67554

Oh really? :p

I think that most of the drivers are doing pretty well with the lack of TC and engine braking at the moment though, at least on a dry track. It's only the weather that will pay the biggest role IMO because on a wet track the lack of TC should affect the most.

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Yeah, agreed! Random fact: I go to the same school that Ross Brawn went to :)

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phil1993 wrote:
Yeah, agreed! Random fact: I go to the same school that Ross Brawn went to :)


and where is that ???
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PostPosted: 19 May 2008, 22:51  
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Robert Kubica said he`s confident about Monaco, he loves the circuit and he thinks he can get the maiden BMW victory next weekend, it`s a circuit where the driver still can make the diference. He sure sounds confident doesn`t he ? Rainning or not i think it would be great, he sure would deserve it. Btw, it`s an interview on the portuguese edition of the Autosport newspaper.
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PostPosted: 20 May 2008, 02:44  
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Could be Alonso's time to shine. Underpowered cars at Monaco aren't really an issue.

If the Renault handles as well as it used to in 05 and 06, they should not have a problem.
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PostPosted: 20 May 2008, 03:53  
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1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen?
YES >>>>>>>>KIMI rox

2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites?
Maybe...not sure...

3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki?
they still remain a threat to ferrari......nd it will be lewis ofcourse who will be a pain in the ass for the italian car...but it will be ferrari tht will win at the end

4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit?
i think they might edge out one of the mclarens drivers......for sure

5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco?
may be behind the feraris, mclarens and saubers

6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong?
not sure abt toyota....but red bull r growing strong.....they may spring up some surprise...

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PostPosted: 20 May 2008, 05:51  
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Monaco - The Technical Challenge
From a technical point of view, Monaco is not as much of an enigma as many people think. The track has been re-surfaced several times in recent years, which means the asphalt is not dissimilar to many permanent racetracks around the world, and from a set-up point of view, it is simply at one end of the aerodynamic and mechanical spectrum.

The cars run with maximum aerodynamic downforce throughout the weekend, which leaves the engineers and drivers to focus on maximising the mechanical grip generated by the cars. It is generally best not to change the car's set-up too much during first practice on Thursday as the circuit only becomes representative in session two, once the surface has started to collect rubber.

With overtaking almost impossible at Monaco, gaining a good grid position is vital. For the engineers, finding their drivers a clear piece of track during qualifying, especially during Q1 when all 20 cars will be out, is as important as improving the car's set-up.

Full throttle: 60%
Brake wear: Medium – Hard
Downforce level: Medium – 10/10
Tyre compounds: Soft / Super Soft
Tyre usage: Medium
Average speed: 160kph (100mph)
Source: http://www.manipef1.com/news/2008/index.php?id=1159


Track position is crucial so qualifying strategy could be what would define the pole position and probably the winner: running lighter for a higher grid position would be a temptation.
In which lap would Alonso make his first pit stop, taking in account that the race has 78 laps?
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