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Who will win the Monaco Grand Prix
Poll ended at 24 May 2008, 14:36
Kimi Raikkonen 38%  38%  [ 41 ]
Felipe Massa 7%  7%  [ 8 ]
Lewis Hamilton 39%  39%  [ 42 ]
Heikki Kovalainen 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Robert Kubica 9%  9%  [ 10 ]
Nick Heidfeld 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Fernando Alonso 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 109
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Monaco Grand Prix - Grand Prix de Monaco
PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 20:10  
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From BBC Motorsport

McLaren star Lewis Hamilton says the Monaco Grand Prix could turn into a "disaster" if rain falls in the Principality this weekend.

"It will be especially difficult here in the wet, especially this year without traction control," he said.

"Pedro de la Rosa (McLaren's test driver) made a comment at the last test that it is incredibly difficult to get to full throttle here in the wet.

"With this circuit being so tight, I think it's going to be a disaster."

Countryman Jenson Button has also voiced his fears about track safety should the weather turn nasty.

"Looking at the forecast, it appears it's going to be pretty awful," said the Honda driver.

"With the white lines going up to Casino Square, if you touch one you've a big chance of putting your car into the wall.


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"So it's going to be pretty intense, and you just hope we get some practice in before the race.

"The last thing we all want is to be barrelling into Casino with no practice in the wet."

LATEST WEATHER FOR WEEKEND: Saturday will be drizzly and Sunday will be showery


What the hell ? Are these guys F1 drivers or are they totally spoiled brats, rain is part of the sport, of course safety matters, but "it`s going to be a disaster " ?!?, beacause is in Monaco ? It`s wonderful, it gives younger/talented drivers the chance to shine( Monaco 84 - Senna/ Bellof) in sh"#!Y cars, and these Mclaren/Ferrari whatever drivers are affraid to look bad ? Poor little kids, we fans are waitin`for a rainy race to see what F1 DRIVERS can do with these powerful machines, who has the most gentle right foot, the ultimate control sliding a F1 in the wet, and they talk about disaster......or maybe they`re starting with some excuses already. Sorry guys, but i`m really surprised by some driver`s comments.
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 20:13  
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 20:14  
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1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen? I guess so. He seems focused for the title...
2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites? Ahhh... i dunno. I guess statistics always say the truth. I think this year he'll win a couple or three GPs just to "brake" his worst tracks record.
3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki? McLaren will come close to Ferrari but not surpass it.
4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit? Um... nope!
5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco? Ummm, definitely nope/no.
6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong? Too hard. But i'm optimistic.

I'm looking forward for Monaco GP, but i think it's the most un-Racing track of all the other ones. A lot of losers get to the podium quite often with not a good car or driving skills... Of course that doesn't mean that if someone get on the podium is a loser. I'm welcome to accept a good race by any driver riches the top 3 positions with his skills.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Monaco Grand Prix - Grand Prix de Monaco
PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 20:23  
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lol ..Both Ferrari haven't said anything ..may be massa, he always said that in rain it would difficult keep car on track..so nothing new abt it :p
Only race driver might know how difficult it is .. :|

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If it rains Ferrari might win but under dry condition its difficult.BMW is struggling too :sad:
I think concentrated more on wet setup during FPs.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Monaco Grand Prix - Grand Prix de Monaco
PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 20:31  
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What the hell ? Are these guys F1 drivers or are they totally spoiled brats, rain is part of the sport, of course safety matters, but "it`s going to be a disaster " ?!?, beacause is in Monaco ? It`s wonderful, it gives younger/talented drivers the chance to shine( Monaco 84 - Senna/ Bellof) in sh"#!Y cars, and these Mclaren/Ferrari whatever drivers are affraid to look bad ? Poor little kids, we fans are waitin`for a rainy race to see what F1 DRIVERS can do with these powerful machines, who has the most gentle right foot, the ultimate control sliding a F1 in the wet, and they talk about disaster......or maybe they`re starting with some excuses already. Sorry guys, but i`m really surprised by some driver`s comments.

It could well be a disaster for the drivers as if you saw any of last years FP3 there were drivers going off left right and centre. But great for us of course. But I don't think the drivers are been too unreasonable saying it could be a disaster, its not like they are saying if it rains I'm not racing.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Monaco Grand Prix - Grand Prix de Monaco
PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 21:16  
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Ok, fair enough, but it almost sounds like whining, these drivers are suposed to be the best and i understand when they complain about the car/tyres/team mate or whatever, but if it rains it rains, instead of thinking in something that could give them some kind of advantage, they keep talking about THE disaster it`s going to be. Well, i was just letting go my bad day in that post i guess.
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 22:17  
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 22:24  
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i am keeping my eyes on rosberg, 5th or maybe 4th place (best of the rest) should be possible (at least if his williams doesn't fall apart once again)
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 23:00  
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 Post subject: Re: F1 News
PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 23:25  
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James Allen's Thursday form guide
For the first time since the season-opener in Australia back in March, McLaren heads into a grand prix weekend as the team to beat following a strong practice day in Monte Carlo.

ITV Sport commentator James Allen explains why Lewis Hamilton in particular is looking supreme on the streets and analyses how Ferrari approaches the weekend from here.

Lewis Hamilton looks in great shape this weekend, judging by his performance in second practice especially. The McLaren is working very well and Lewis just has the right line around here.

After the session I walked back to the paddock with Jacques Laffite, who commentates for TF1 in France. He said that Lewis’s driving around here reminds him of Senna.

I know what he means. There is a mesmerising quality to the way the car goes along what seems a different and faster line than the others. It’s almost as if it is being pulled along by an invisible force.
He feels very good this weekend and at the end of the session you saw him waving to the crowds and the marshals on his in-lap. That is a sign of a man who is feeling light and confident.

Less poetically and more practically, the McLaren looks in great shape on the soft ‘option’ tyre on the first lap, so will be dynamite in qualifying (if it stays dry).

The team also seem able to get the soft tyre to last quite well over a stint, which is unusual for them this year.

And they are very fast on the long runs on the harder ‘prime’ tyre, as they have been all season – so I cannot see a weakness in Lewis’s game here and, if all goes according to plan and the weather doesn’t ruin it for him (which it might), I think he’ll dominate the weekend.

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t will give him a welcome opportunity to put his team-mate in the shade. From Hamilton’s perspective Heikki Kovalainen has been doing a bit too well lately and Lewis needs to re-establish his supremacy within the team.

Monaco has come at just the right time for him from that point of view. Kovalainen isn’t that special around here. He’s two, maybe three, tenths of a second per lap slower than Lewis.

The same is true at Ferrari, where Kimi Raikkonen has an advantage over Felipe Massa.

The Brazilian isn’t precise enough to be fast here and he admitted to some of my colleagues that he will be happy to get away with some points this weekend.

Ferrari need to find some first-lap pace for qualifying if they are to challenge Hamilton.

Lewis bolted on a set of soft tyres and did a 1m15.1s straight off. Both Massa and Raikkonen did the same and got a 1m16.0s. They tried again and Kimi did 1m15.572s.

Of course we don’t know what the fuel loads were, but the weight penalty for carrying extra fuel here is not great, so the Ferraris would have to have been brimmed for that kind of difference to emerge.

This is unlikely. Both teams tend to run a similar amount of fuel in this session.

The battle for pole
The race at Monaco is generally decided on the final runs in qualifying on Saturday.

Last year Hamilton was set to beat Fernando Alonso to pole but hit traffic. So Ferrari have cause to worry about how they can fight Hamilton if he has superior speed in qualifying.

Nevertheless the Ferrari is quick enough on long runs and Raikkonen is Hamilton’s major threat this weekend.

So too is Robert Kubica. The Pole didn’t show his hand today, as usual, but he’s very fast at Monaco and his BMW is well suited to the track. It has great change of direction and lots of traction out of the corners.

Today he was complaining about instability under braking, but they will sort that out and I think he will be very aggressive in qualifying in an attempt to start at the front of the grid.

Because the field gets so spread out here and it is so hard to pass, running at the front, even if you have to pit earlier than the rest, will still bag you a great result.

SOURCE: http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type ... n&id=42732
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 23:27  
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Monaco: Alonso escapes penalty from stewards
Fernando Alonso was summoned to the stewards room after the final free practice session at Monte Carlo on Thursday. The Renault driver was asked to explain why he had driven an entire lap of the tight Monaco street layout after his slide into the Ste. Devote barrier. Rubens Barrichello, who it must be said is not the Spaniard's closest friend, showed his displeasure of Alonso's tactics by waving his finger at the 26-year-old as he passed the flailing R28.

The red flags had to be waved in the wake of the incident, so that marshals could clear the extensive debris, including Alonso's rear wing that broke off at the Mirabeau corner. “I told them that I thought I had driven safely, without endangering anyone, and also that there wasn't any good areas to stop,” Alonso is quoted as saying to the Spanish newspaper Diario AS.

The stewards decided not to penalise the former double world champion. “I thanked them, and that's it,” Alonso added.

SOURCE: http://www.manipef1.com/news/2008/index.php?id=1200
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PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 23:36  
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Team-by-team summary and pictures: Thursday, Monaco
McLaren-MERCEDES
Lewis Hamilton lagged Kimi Raikkonen's morning pace, but his afternoon showing - when the Briton described his car as "great" - made him easily Thursday's fastest. Heikki Kovalainen started the day well but ended up over seven tenths shy of his teammate.

WILLIAMS-TOYOTA
Rookie teammate Kazuki Nakajima is not on his teammate's pace, but Nico Rosberg was fifth in the morning and a surprise second fastest in the afternoon session. "It looks like we have a good car here," he enthused.

FERRARI
Raikkonen's quickest morning time had become a nearly half-second deficit to Hamilton by the end of the day, and team boss Stefano Domenicali admitted that the F2008 is struggling to match McLaren's qualifying pace, particularly with the softest tyre. Felipe Massa, who openly dislikes Monaco, was consistently three tenths off his Finnish teammate's pace.

BMW-SAUBER
Nick Heidfeld, whose car at Monaco features aerodynamic wheel covers for the first time, had to stop his car in the morning and have an engine change in the break, but he was only a tenth or so off on-form teammate Robert Kubica's pace in the afternoon. "We now have to see how we can improve the car for Saturday," the Pole said.

RENAULT
2007 winner for McLaren, Fernando Alonso, was seventh in both Thursday practice sessions, even though in the afternoon he mirrored his struggling teammate Nelson Piquet's almost identical whack against the Sainte Devote barriers, which brought out the red flags.

HONDA
The RA108 is very much a car with which to aspire only for the lower points, and so it seemed to prove on Thursday, with Rubens Barrichello eighth quickest in the morning and Jenson Button in the same position in the afternoon.

TOYOTA
An awful day for 2004 winner Jarno Trulli, who glanced the barriers in both the morning and afternoon sessions, and his team revealed that he also encountered a problem with his car's floor. The highlight of Toyota's day was just twelfth place in the afternoon for Monaco newcomer Timo Glock, who ended both sessions in front of Trulli.

RED BULL-RENAULT
David Coulthard didn't set a time in the morning due to a throttle problem, and in the afternoon he and Mark Webber were two seconds off the ultimate pace. "At the moment the car is not suiting the track that well," Webber admitted.

FORCE INDIA-FERRARI
Giancarlo Fisichella made his now customary high-profile - and presumably low-fuel - practice run to tenth best in the morning, settling to 16th in the afternoon. Adrian Sutil was half a second off his teammate's pace in the morning, and nearly a full second behind in the final outing, when he clipped the barrier in the Rascasse and lost his front wing.

TORO ROSSO-FERRARI
Despite debuting the new STR3 at Monaco, Sebastian Vettel was Thursday's slowest runner in both sessions, but Sebastien Bourdais - albeit notably faster - is also unhappy. "I was fighting with the car on a circuit that I have always liked in the past," the F1 rookie, who raced at Monte Carlo in F3000, rued.

SOURCE: http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/8716/900/
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Monaco Grand Prix - Grand Prix de Monaco
PostPosted: 23 May 2008, 23:39  
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Both Renault drivers hit Monaco wall
May 22 (GMM) Both Renault drivers made contact with Monaco's famous walls on Thursday afternoon.

Rookie Nelson Piquet, who so far is off the pace in the Principality, was the first to lose control of the rear of his R28 during the second practice session of the day.

He half-spun and nudged into the turn one tyre barrier with the rear of his car, but was able to nurse the ailing single seater back to the pits with a damaged rear wing.

Alonso, the former double world champion, did a similar thing at the same Saint Devote corner, but he missed the tyre barrier with his left rear wheel and instead smacked the subsequent stretch of arm-co.

The Spaniard then briefly brought out the red flags when his damaged rear wing broke off as he was recovering to the pits.

Toyota's Jarno Trulli, after stopping in the morning following contact with the barrier, again lightly bumped into the wall in the final 90 minutes of Thursday practice as he exited the Swimming Pool.

Adrian Sutil also got into the wall at the beginning of La Rascasse, knocking off the front wing of his Force India.

One startled pitlane resident who was crossing the pitlane, meanwhile, was lucky to avoid being hit by the session's fastest man Lewis Hamilton, as the McLaren driver exited his pit garage.

Four tenths adrift, Williams' Nico Rosberg was a surprise second quickest, ahead of the two Ferraris and Hamilton's teammate Heikki Kovalainen.

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PostPosted: 24 May 2008, 07:34  
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1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen? Nope, hope McLaren will b as strong as they were in 2007 - YES
2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites? Nope, same above NO
3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki? Both, hoping for a one (Lewis) two (Heikki) NO
4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit? Don't know were to put the BMWs - YESSS !
5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco? Not a hattrick! 8 place -:)
6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong? I think Williams will be strong, as always in Monaco NO NO NO
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Monaco Grand Prix - Grand Prix de Monaco
PostPosted: 24 May 2008, 07:48  
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1st post yay!

1. Will Ferrari continue its winning ways with Raikkonen? Maybe, Lewis Hamilton looks real strong but if there's rain, Kimi could take it.
2. Will Massa win a race in a track other than his favorites? Seems to me he likes the Tilke designed circuits and Monaco is nothing like them.
3. Will McLaren-Mercedes bounce back? And with who, Lewis or Heikki? With Lewis Hamilton, Heikki could get a podium
4. Will BMW-Sauber show their potential in this tight-and-twisty circuit? Their usual best of the rest pace.
5. What will Alonso the back-to-back winner do in Monaco? Between 5-10
6. Will Toyota and Red Bull be again strong? Webber could easily score points as well as Trulli but they have to have a trouble free qualy and race.
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