Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
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Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver
2-Best Team
3-Best Overtaking
4-Best Moment
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team
6-Best Rookie
7-The Most Surprising Moment
8-Comments
2-Best Team
3-Best Overtaking
4-Best Moment
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team
6-Best Rookie
7-The Most Surprising Moment
8-Comments
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Let's say: Massa, Hamilton , Kovalainen, Trulli
2-Best Team - Ferrari, McLaren
3-Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso the first time!!
4-Best Moment - Hamilton passing a lot of drivers
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Button, Force India
6-Best Rookie - No doubt, Piquet!
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Raikkonens problem with his car
8-Comments - Hamilton didn't deserve the penalty! He was already past Vettel, he couldn't go another way, he had to cut the corner! Undeservingly!! Again Ferrari International Assistance!!!!!!! Big time!!!
2-Best Team - Ferrari, McLaren
3-Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso the first time!!
4-Best Moment - Hamilton passing a lot of drivers
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Button, Force India
6-Best Rookie - No doubt, Piquet!
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Raikkonens problem with his car
8-Comments - Hamilton didn't deserve the penalty! He was already past Vettel, he couldn't go another way, he had to cut the corner! Undeservingly!! Again Ferrari International Assistance!!!!!!! Big time!!!
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
Best Driver - Trulli
Best Team - Ferrari
Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso (the first one)
Best Moment- Podium celebrations and Toyotas podium under the sad circumstances
Worst driver and team: Button and Honda/FI
Best Rookie: Piquet for once!
Surprising moment: Raikkonen not slipping down the order further
Comments: Well done Piquet, i always said to give him time...and yet another penalty (2 over the weekend) against McLaren...
Best Team - Ferrari
Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso (the first one)
Best Moment- Podium celebrations and Toyotas podium under the sad circumstances
Worst driver and team: Button and Honda/FI
Best Rookie: Piquet for once!
Surprising moment: Raikkonen not slipping down the order further
Comments: Well done Piquet, i always said to give him time...and yet another penalty (2 over the weekend) against McLaren...
Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Trulli
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso
4-Best Moment - Kovalainen trying to pass Trulli on the 2nd last lap
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Button, Honda
6-Best Rookie - Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Hamilton not giving the place back
8-Comments - Anything to make the race not exciting, stewards?
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso
4-Best Moment - Kovalainen trying to pass Trulli on the 2nd last lap
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Button, Honda
6-Best Rookie - Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Hamilton not giving the place back
8-Comments - Anything to make the race not exciting, stewards?
Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Trulli
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Piquet on Alonso
4-Best Moment - Trulli and Kovalainen clash
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Button & Honda
6-Best Rookie - Piquet (for once)
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Kimi's technical problem
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Piquet on Alonso
4-Best Moment - Trulli and Kovalainen clash
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Button & Honda
6-Best Rookie - Piquet (for once)
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Kimi's technical problem
Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Massa, Trulli
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Piquet on alonso
4-Best Moment - Massa wins for the lead of the champioship
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Hamilton & BMW
6-Best Rookie - Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Raikkonen's problem
8-Comments - well deserved penalty for Hamilton. He have the pace to win, but he needs to wait for the right time to overtake or else he will keep getting penalized for those few slips he is doing.
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Piquet on alonso
4-Best Moment - Massa wins for the lead of the champioship
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Hamilton & BMW
6-Best Rookie - Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Raikkonen's problem
8-Comments - well deserved penalty for Hamilton. He have the pace to win, but he needs to wait for the right time to overtake or else he will keep getting penalized for those few slips he is doing.
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
I gave this race a 6
1-Best Driver. Trulli i didnt predict a podium did any of you guys?
2-Best Team. tougth call could say ferrari for doing an excellent job but they do this weel in week out so im going with the toyota team.
3-Best Overtaking. not sure piquet on alonso. didnt expect that
4-Best Moment. wasnt one really, massa taking chequered?
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team. None. Honda that car needs alot of work.
6-Best Rookie. Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment. Hamilton being pulled up with a drive through penalty
8-Comments. not the best race i would be happy if this really is the last year at magny cours, but it was good to see trulli up there.
1-Best Driver. Trulli i didnt predict a podium did any of you guys?
2-Best Team. tougth call could say ferrari for doing an excellent job but they do this weel in week out so im going with the toyota team.
3-Best Overtaking. not sure piquet on alonso. didnt expect that
4-Best Moment. wasnt one really, massa taking chequered?
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team. None. Honda that car needs alot of work.
6-Best Rookie. Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment. Hamilton being pulled up with a drive through penalty
8-Comments. not the best race i would be happy if this really is the last year at magny cours, but it was good to see trulli up there.
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Trulli, doubtless.
2-Best Team - Ferrari. What a demolition job! Even with exhaust problems for half a race, still a 1-2 cakewalk.
3-Best Overtaking - Heikki switchback on Webber. Stalwart, and good racecraft.
4-Best Moment - Drive through ( ), Piquet crosses the line for points!
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Bourdais or Heidfeld. So far off their team-mates. Renault - poor strategy. McLaren - cos I hate them. Although Heikki's cool. -Note. This is only half-serious, and at this point I was busy hearing on ITV from Ron Dennis, with his continual "I'm not going to say more than that", which so smacked of that old Ferrari International Assistance jibe. McLaren actually had an ok day with Heikki.
6-Best Rookie - Piquet. Even beat the semi-rookies.
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Exhaust problems for Kimi, no rain.
8-Comments - Hamilton overdrove, and had he slowed down and taken the road rather than the green stuff, would he have kept the place? No. He'd have run wide or had to slow so much that he'd have lost a place/places. It doesn't matter that he was slightly ahead on the track, he's still got to keep it on the road, and the only way he could have maintained it was that way. Plus he hit Kovalainen, locked up badly three times behind Piquet and went for gaps that weren't there at 180, when Piquet took a wide line. A thoroughly poor weekend for Lewis.
Great for Piquet. They put him on a good 2-stopper, which they should hve put Alonso on from Quali. The fact that they changed Alonso to a 2 stopper just made it worse for him. 28 laps on the soft tyres? How stupid. No wonder he couldn't keep up with Piquet and Webber with a few laps to go. But at this point, he's probably past caring:
I gave this race a 6. It was just fairly dull, with some interest in the grid and with the slight dampness. If it had rained, it would have been three classic GPs in a row in 2008. Since it didn't, it wasn't a classic. But if it had rained, Lewis might have done well. So I'm ok about that.
EDIT: I forgot to laud Heikki! He had a great race. It was in that middle stint, in clean air that he just rocketed away from Piquet and put in the laps to jump Robert. He didn't pass Trulli, but he had a damned good try.
2-Best Team - Ferrari. What a demolition job! Even with exhaust problems for half a race, still a 1-2 cakewalk.
3-Best Overtaking - Heikki switchback on Webber. Stalwart, and good racecraft.
4-Best Moment - Drive through ( ), Piquet crosses the line for points!
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Bourdais or Heidfeld. So far off their team-mates. Renault - poor strategy. McLaren - cos I hate them. Although Heikki's cool. -Note. This is only half-serious, and at this point I was busy hearing on ITV from Ron Dennis, with his continual "I'm not going to say more than that", which so smacked of that old Ferrari International Assistance jibe. McLaren actually had an ok day with Heikki.
6-Best Rookie - Piquet. Even beat the semi-rookies.
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Exhaust problems for Kimi, no rain.
8-Comments - Hamilton overdrove, and had he slowed down and taken the road rather than the green stuff, would he have kept the place? No. He'd have run wide or had to slow so much that he'd have lost a place/places. It doesn't matter that he was slightly ahead on the track, he's still got to keep it on the road, and the only way he could have maintained it was that way. Plus he hit Kovalainen, locked up badly three times behind Piquet and went for gaps that weren't there at 180, when Piquet took a wide line. A thoroughly poor weekend for Lewis.
Great for Piquet. They put him on a good 2-stopper, which they should hve put Alonso on from Quali. The fact that they changed Alonso to a 2 stopper just made it worse for him. 28 laps on the soft tyres? How stupid. No wonder he couldn't keep up with Piquet and Webber with a few laps to go. But at this point, he's probably past caring:
Yep, if Alonso doesn't mind being beaten by his team-mate, you can tell that he's despairing to the point of apathy at Renault."The backmarker, a Force India, didn't see me and moved to the outside and I moved to the inside to avoid it and I overshot the corner. But one or two points won't change my life," he said.
I gave this race a 6. It was just fairly dull, with some interest in the grid and with the slight dampness. If it had rained, it would have been three classic GPs in a row in 2008. Since it didn't, it wasn't a classic. But if it had rained, Lewis might have done well. So I'm ok about that.
EDIT: I forgot to laud Heikki! He had a great race. It was in that middle stint, in clean air that he just rocketed away from Piquet and put in the laps to jump Robert. He didn't pass Trulli, but he had a damned good try.
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver: Zacarias...err...Massa!
2-Best Team: Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking: Piquet on Alonso
4-Best Moment: Trulli and Kovalainen fight
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team: Rosberg and Williams
6-Best Rookie: for the 1st time, Piquet!
7-The Most Surprising Moment: the problem of Räikkönen
8-Comments: Excellent race. Is good see one brazilian in 1st on championship.
2-Best Team: Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking: Piquet on Alonso
4-Best Moment: Trulli and Kovalainen fight
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team: Rosberg and Williams
6-Best Rookie: for the 1st time, Piquet!
7-The Most Surprising Moment: the problem of Räikkönen
8-Comments: Excellent race. Is good see one brazilian in 1st on championship.
Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Trulli -> Kimi -> Massa -> Nelson
2-Best Team - Ferrari with some doubts and instresting only 1 DNF == Jenson.
3-Best Overtaking - not successful full but heikki on trulli -> Nelson on alonso
4-Best Moment - Kimi survives
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - ? / Honda
6-Best Rookie - Nelson
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Nelson's defense!
8-Comments - i rated 5 (actually 4 to be fair ).
2-Best Team - Ferrari with some doubts and instresting only 1 DNF == Jenson.
3-Best Overtaking - not successful full but heikki on trulli -> Nelson on alonso
4-Best Moment - Kimi survives
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - ? / Honda
6-Best Rookie - Nelson
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Nelson's defense!
8-Comments - i rated 5 (actually 4 to be fair ).
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
Best driver: Kimi
Best team: Ferrari, without a doubt!
Best overtaking: Hamiltons first move on Alonso
Best moment: Kovalainen-Trulli manouver
Worst driver: Rosberg
Worst team: considering their potential I have to say Williams
Best rookie: Piquet
Most surprising moment: Kimi´s exhaust problem
Comments: I rated 6 was a decent race.
Hamiltons penalty was ok. You have to let the guy through again in that situation and then start another manouver a lap later or so. Cutting the chicane during a fight for position is not allowed.
I think Michael would have been punished for that so it´s ok they punished Lewis.
Best team: Ferrari, without a doubt!
Best overtaking: Hamiltons first move on Alonso
Best moment: Kovalainen-Trulli manouver
Worst driver: Rosberg
Worst team: considering their potential I have to say Williams
Best rookie: Piquet
Most surprising moment: Kimi´s exhaust problem
Comments: I rated 6 was a decent race.
Hamiltons penalty was ok. You have to let the guy through again in that situation and then start another manouver a lap later or so. Cutting the chicane during a fight for position is not allowed.
I think Michael would have been punished for that so it´s ok they punished Lewis.
Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
Best driver: Raikkonen, Trulli
Best team: Ferrari (they could only beat themselfes)
Best overtaking: Kovalainen in the pit against Piquet
Best moment: Fight between Piquet and the McLarens
Worst driver: Heidfeld
Worst team: BMW, Williams and Honda
Best rookie: Piquet
Comments: 4 (very boring race. I think not so boring like Malaysia, but less exciting than Bahrain)
I think Monaco was 10, Montreal and Melbourne 9, Barcelona 7, Istanbul 6, Bahrain 5, Magny Cours 4, Malaysia 3.
Looking forward to Silverstone!
Best team: Ferrari (they could only beat themselfes)
Best overtaking: Kovalainen in the pit against Piquet
Best moment: Fight between Piquet and the McLarens
Worst driver: Heidfeld
Worst team: BMW, Williams and Honda
Best rookie: Piquet
Comments: 4 (very boring race. I think not so boring like Malaysia, but less exciting than Bahrain)
I think Monaco was 10, Montreal and Melbourne 9, Barcelona 7, Istanbul 6, Bahrain 5, Magny Cours 4, Malaysia 3.
Looking forward to Silverstone!
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Felipe Massa, Heikki Kovalainen & Nelson Piquet
2-Best Team - Toyota
3-Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso ( twice )
4-Best Moment - Hamilton passing Alonso & Nelsinho pushing past Alonso
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Nick / BMW
6-Best Rookie - Nelson Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Trulli on podium ! < How often do we see a toyota on podium >
8-Comments - Good race from Heikki ... Keep going ...
Dreadful race from Alonso. He had started 3rd and should have done everything he can to keep it with him. He left a Toyota to pass him and take third ! And there was no logic behind refuelling him so early to finish ! 28 laps before finish .. Guess Renault were counting on something else ...
2-Best Team - Toyota
3-Best Overtaking - Hamilton on Alonso ( twice )
4-Best Moment - Hamilton passing Alonso & Nelsinho pushing past Alonso
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Nick / BMW
6-Best Rookie - Nelson Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Trulli on podium ! < How often do we see a toyota on podium >
8-Comments - Good race from Heikki ... Keep going ...
Dreadful race from Alonso. He had started 3rd and should have done everything he can to keep it with him. He left a Toyota to pass him and take third ! And there was no logic behind refuelling him so early to finish ! 28 laps before finish .. Guess Renault were counting on something else ...
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Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
TwistedArmco wrote:What did happen to Alonso in 2005? Do you mean 2006 at Monza?
But that is completely different, in that the "blocking incident" then wasn't even borderline. But not even that was to aid Ferrari, it was just the stewards getting a bit over-zealous, and Ferrari being bothered enough to "prove" the "block"
Yeah its 2006 Monza in qualifying ...
Re: Rate the French Grand Prix 2008
1-Best Driver - Kovalainen
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Kovalainen on Webber
4-Best Moment - Finish
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Hamilton, Force India
6-Best Rookie - Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Lewis Hamilton's performance
2-Best Team - Ferrari
3-Best Overtaking - Kovalainen on Webber
4-Best Moment - Finish
5-Worst Driver & Worst Team - Hamilton, Force India
6-Best Rookie - Piquet
7-The Most Surprising Moment - Lewis Hamilton's performance