2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Locked
HamiltonF1
GP2 Driver
GP2 Driver
Posts: 376
Joined: 13 Jun 2007, 11:43
Location: Netherlands

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by HamiltonF1 » 07 Apr 2008, 15:19

Heiki drove the fastest lap because he didn't needed that much fuel anymore and hade fresh tires so no wonder he hade the fastest lap and since a race is more than one lap doesn't mean your the best driver so he finished 5th.
Image

dacer
Donator
Donator
Posts: 590
Joined: 20 Jun 2007, 15:42
Location: Almeria, Spain

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by dacer » 07 Apr 2008, 15:25

ohh, yes of course, the other 21 driver are driving slowy to let him fastest lap. And other didn't have fresh tires and all these kind of stories

HamiltonF1
GP2 Driver
GP2 Driver
Posts: 376
Joined: 13 Jun 2007, 11:43
Location: Netherlands

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by HamiltonF1 » 07 Apr 2008, 15:31

Uhm please let me finish. :blink:
Heiki hade only 10 laps to go and was the last driver that made his pitstop so lets make it easy for you.

Heiki needed for 10 laps fuel and was the last to make his pitstop.
He was the lightest car with the freshest tires.
There was a lot of grip on the track cuz of the amount of laps that where driven.
He hade a better lap than Heidfeld.

Conclussion Heiki drives the fastest lap cuz he drives the lap when he needs to do it.
Image

dacer
Donator
Donator
Posts: 590
Joined: 20 Jun 2007, 15:42
Location: Almeria, Spain

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by dacer » 07 Apr 2008, 15:42

will kovalinen change engine next race?. Yes, ok burn this engine. Not, ummmm, you are 15 second behind 4th and you burn your engine with fastest lap?.

And will be interesting see all lap times.

And he didnt had lightest car, because all cars on track have fuel for same laps. He only had fresh tires. (At the start of the race someones can have lightest car, but, when no pit stop remaining, all drivers have the "same" fuel -"same", not the same, because some cars need more fuel for lap than anothers, but all of them have "laps remaining x fuel for a lap")

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 07 Apr 2008, 16:00

dacer wrote:
P.S.: I don't think I insult anyone. If you think so, I'm sorry


ok, i misinterpreted your comment, sorry :thumbsup:

User avatar
AzShadow
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 1866
Joined: 26 Oct 2007, 13:46
Location: Finland

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by AzShadow » 07 Apr 2008, 16:11

I was wondering about Heikki's engine too but it just seems that Mercedes engines don't fail anymore since 2007. Ferrari always talks about preserving engines but I haven't noticed McLaren having any trouble. It is quite a miracle when you consider the previous years. So times change...
Image

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 07 Apr 2008, 16:17

for catalunya:

Raikkonen and massa will be on engine 2
Hamilton and kovalainen will be on engine 1
heidfled on engine 2
kubica on engine 1
alonso on engine 2
piquet on engine 1
trulli on engine 1
glock on engine 2
rosberg on engine 2

dacer
Donator
Donator
Posts: 590
Joined: 20 Jun 2007, 15:42
Location: Almeria, Spain

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by dacer » 07 Apr 2008, 16:24

AzShadow wrote:I was wondering about Heikki's engine too but it just seems that Mercedes engines don't fail anymore since 2007. Ferrari always talks about preserving engines but I haven't noticed McLaren having any trouble. It is quite a miracle when you consider the previous years. So times change...


Not only engine. Last year, Alonso and Hamilton only didn't finish one race. Alonso, Japan crash, and Hamilton, Chinese gp, rear tires+gravel

Anyone can explain how a bad (develop + setup) car on 2006, can be the best on 2007?. Maybe they have a new guy on his team...... It's like renault, some years ago, fighting with minardis, and them 2 championships (driver+team two years)

User avatar
alper206
kart driver
kart driver
Posts: 58
Joined: 01 Oct 2007, 23:18

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by alper206 » 07 Apr 2008, 16:45

I think kimi will have a fresh engine in Spain as he had an engine change after blowing in australia.there is a question mark over massa's since ferrari declared last week that they may not change massa's engine although they had the right to do since he did not finish in malaysia. if he was on the second race with the same engine in bahrain, he will also get a new one in spain.

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 07 Apr 2008, 16:50

oh no!!!!!!!!!!! ive got it all wrong. i thought we'd had 4 rounds for some bizarre reason! all the above engine usage should be the opposite (if i wrote 1 i meant 2 and visa versa) of what i said. Sorry, i am a complete retard

User avatar
iceman1
F1 Legend
F1 Legend
Posts: 23702
Joined: 16 Sep 2006, 15:50
Location: North Pole
Contact:

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by iceman1 » 07 Apr 2008, 16:51

Robert Kubica scored the first pole position for a Polish driver. It was the first time a non-McLaren or Ferrari driver had started from pole position since Fernando Alonso at Shanghai in 2006.

Kubica also finished on the podium for the second race in a row for the first time in his career.

Felipe Massa won the Bahrain Grand Prix for the second year in a row. It was his sixth win, giving him the same number as Tony Brooks, John Surtees (1964 champion), Jochen Rindt (1970 champion), Gilles Villeneuve, Jacques Laffite, Riccardo Patrese and Ralf Schumacher.

He is the third different winner this year in three races, and it was also his first victory not scored from pole position.

Kimi Raikkonen has finished on the podium in the last four Bahrain Grands Prix without winning it.

BMW lead the constructors’ championship for the first time ever, despite not having won a race yet.

Sebastian Vettel is the only driver yet to finish a race this year

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 07 Apr 2008, 16:54

iceman1 wrote:Robert Kubica scored the first pole position for a Polish driver. It was the first time a non-McLaren or Ferrari driver had started from pole position since Fernando Alonso at Shanghai in 2006.

Kubica also finished on the podium for the second race in a row for the first time in his career.

Felipe Massa won the Bahrain Grand Prix for the second year in a row. It was his sixth win, giving him the same number as Tony Brooks, John Surtees (1964 champion), Jochen Rindt (1970 champion), Gilles Villeneuve, Jacques Laffite, Riccardo Patrese and Ralf Schumacher.

He is the third different winner this year in three races, and it was also his first victory not scored from pole position.

Kimi Raikkonen has finished on the podium in the last four Bahrain Grands Prix without winning it.

BMW lead the constructors’ championship for the first time ever, despite not having won a race yet.

Sebastian Vettel is the only driver yet to finish a race this year


good facts. turnaround of vettel from being the new sensation to the worst driver this year. BMW have to win a race this year surely? Do you think Kimi will ever win in Bahrain!!! :cheezy:
Funny how Massa has the same no. of wins as 2 former champions did......and ralf

gruven
kart driver
kart driver
Posts: 45
Joined: 17 Mar 2008, 18:01

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by gruven » 07 Apr 2008, 17:42

For those debating on who caused the impact of Hamilton's car into Alonso:

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/4/7615.html

That should put it to bed..

dacer
Donator
Donator
Posts: 590
Joined: 20 Jun 2007, 15:42
Location: Almeria, Spain

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by dacer » 07 Apr 2008, 17:51

gruven wrote:For those debating on who caused the impact of Hamilton's car into Alonso:

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/4/7615.html

That should put it to bed..


yes, and, ferrari said about massa errors that the car.......

I don't believe them.

And, if everyone is saying to punish Alonso for the "break test". If telemetry said Alonso didn't do it, why not punish Hamilton for crash with the car infront him?.

This is really fantastic:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/4/7608.html
Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (13th):
...
Then I had the incident with Fernando. I was behind him, and I moved to the right, and he moved to the right and that was it - a racing incident I guess
...


fantastic, yes, Alonso moved right. Thats true, that was a right turn!!!. Alonso must moved left on a right turn. If not, he is guilty; really fantastic!!!

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 07 Apr 2008, 17:53

no. both alonso and hamilton clearly moved to the right AFTER the right hand kink, so it should be put down as a racing incident

Locked