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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix
PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 00:35  
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phil1993 wrote:
Top teams appear to be

1 Ferrari
2 BMW
3 Mclaren
4 Toyota
5. Williams

Poor Renault. feel sorry for piquet with having a boss with a short temper whilst trying to make your debut against a double world champion in a c**p car


I agree very much with that list. Toyota is really a pleasant surprise! Williams maybe not so strong as their wintertesting predicted, Red Bull is almost on the same level.

And I think not even Flav can tell Piquet off now, he surely realizes what piles of junk both Piquet and Alonso are driving around in...[help]

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Great first part of the race. A necessary win for Massa, good performance by Kimi, great results for BMW, Heidfeld and Kubica (despite loosing position to Massa and Kimi).
BMW including both drivers have more points this year than last year.
:huh: Spain will be an exciting race, we would get answers to a lot of questions, like:
Ferrari : Will they be strong like the last two races?
BMW: Will they show that they are here to stay in the front as a leader or runner up?
McLaren: Can they bounce back .... again ? Will Hamilton have time to practice his start? Would Kovalainen finish before Hamilton?
Williams: Will they get more points ? Can they repeat a podium?
Toyota: Would both drivers be in the points?
Honda: Can they get in the qualifying Q3 and in the points?
Red Bull: Will they be constant? and Coulthard will stop having collisions?
Renault: Can they accept that they are in botton half of the grid? Would Fernando still be cool on his comments, knowing that maybe no more points for the team?
STR: Can they show any progress? Would Vettel finish a race?
Force-India: Are they better team than Toro-Rosso?
Super-Aguri: Would Davidson finish before Sato?

We would have to wait for Spain .... :wave:
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 01:06  
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We would have to wait for Spain .... :wave:[/quote]

I think 3 weeks is to long.

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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 01:08  
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Congratulations to the Ferrari Team! Nice win,important points! Hamilton and Alonso were ridiculous with all those wavings to the other drivers. Nakajima is an idiot! He never let pass anyone in the right time. Kubica did a great job, and the BMW was surprisingly fast till the finish! Poor Massa was still stressed out even on the podium:)
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 02:25  
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phil1993 wrote:
Top teams appear to be

1 Ferrari
2 BMW
3 Mclaren
4 Toyota
5. Williams

Poor Renault. feel sorry for piquet with having a boss with a short temper whilst trying to make your debut against a double world champion in a c**p car


I would change Williams in 4th and Toyota in 5th but that only my 50 cent :P
But if you see it in the way that Williams are stable in their position and what they can do comparing last year, but in contrary Toyota increased their pace significally from the last year where Toyota's where two of the worst cars in the grid in my opinion.
Beside that my first row is my opinion yeah :D hihi :P

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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 03:08  
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Great first part of the race with lot of action and very interesting pitstops. A necessary win for Massa, a solid performance by Kimi, great results for BMW, Heidfeld and Kubica (despite loosing position to Massa and Kimi).
BMW including both drivers have more points this year than last year and leads constructors without a victory!!!
Up to date: 3 races, 3 differents winners, 3 differents pole positions and 3 differents podiums.
Bahrain Race Summary:
Great start: Massa
Great overtaking: Kimi over Kubica
Bad start: Kubica
Worst start: Hamilton
Top Teams: Ferrari, BMW, McLaren, Toyota, Williams (Agree with phil1993)
Next stop Spain: shall the trend continue: Would we sea a new pole, a new winner, and a new podium?
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 05:20  
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FERRARI

Kimi Raikkonen – Finished 2nd/Q4

Second place was the best I could hope for on a weekend which was definitely not the best for me. These eight points move me into the lead of the championship and that is definitely a reason for me to leave Bahrain reasonably satisfied.

I never found the ideal balance. Sometimes you get weekends like this but I am convinced that in Barcelona the situation will be different. My first pit stop was not very quick because we had a problem with the lights, but it definitely did not affect the final result.

Felipe Massa – Finished 1st/Q2

Sensational! Finally, after a start to the championship under dark clouds, I can see the sunshine again. We kept our concentration all weekend long and this is the result. We knew we could count on a great car and that certainly proved to be the case, given that I never had to push to the maximum once I was in the lead.

I made a good start, managing to overtake Robert. Then there were a few difficult laps because of oil on track between turns five and eight, but I was always in control. Clearly, I always had in mind what happened in Malaysia so I tried to pay attention all the time to ensure I brought the car home. It is nice to be back in the winner's position here at Sakhir, a track I have always liked.


BMW SAUBER

Nick Heidfeld – Finished 4th/Q6

Now after the race I'm much happier than I was yesterday. Finishing fourth is a positive result after what was a difficult weekend for me. The car's balance on this track was just not how I wanted it to be. I hope I won't have such troubles again.

Finishing the race just one position behind my team-mate, who started from pole while I was sixth, is a good result. I enjoyed overtaking Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen. Once again for us in the team everything went smoothly.

Robert Kubica – Finished 3rd/Q1

I am happy with the result. This is my second consecutive podium and the team is leading the constructors' championship. Unfortunately I had massive wheelspin at the start and hit some debris in the first corner of the second lap.

When I drove through the oil I was sure I had punctured my tyre as at that point I didn't have the information about the oil. But this was a great day for the team. I am now looking forward to Barcelona.





RENAULT

Fernando Alonso – Finished 10th/Q10

The race was difficult, as I had expected. Our qualifying yesterday in Q3 had been a big surprise, but we knew that our race pace would not allow us to do much better in the race.

We are still missing some speed but we hope to improve in Barcelona.

Nelson Piquet – DNF/Q14

I made a good start and the car was working well, then I suffered a gearbox problem. I tried to continue but it became dangerous and my engineers asked me to retire so that we would avoid a penalty in the next race.

The result is not what we wanted, but I was able to learn a lot again this weekend and that is what I need to keep doing. I will now try to prepare as best I can for the next race, and try to make the most of the next test in Barcelona in 10 days’ time.


WILLIAMS

Nico Rosberg – Finished 8th/Q8

In the final analysis I guess I should go home happy as we got a point, but I don't feel satisfied. We should have done better. However it was very difficult out there: the tyre performance was very changeable and the wind conditions were different to Friday when we set our gear ratios, and in the end the car was just not good enough.

So we have got some work to do before the Spanish GP. Historically Barcelona is a difficult track for us, but we have got some new developments for the car, so I hope this will help for the next race.

Kazuki Nakajima – Finished 14th/Q16

It was not an easy day for me. I had a very bad start and then I had a spin on the oil on lap two before the high-speed esses, so it couldn't have begun any worse.

After that I managed to keep up a consistent pace, but it was difficult to make any more progress through the field than up to P14 from the back. I will see what lessons we can learn from here for the next race in Barcelona.


RED BULL RACING

David Coulthard – Finished 18th/Q17

I didn't make the best of starts. I really just wanted to get through the first corner and stay out of trouble, but unfortunately I became a bit of a pinball as a couple of cars bounced off either side of me. That caused some damage to my car; I got a puncture and had to make a pit stop.

The car was quite slow after that, but I was battling for position with Jenson, who was quicker. We got too close in one corner and had an incident, which took him out of the race and caused more damage to my car. I came into the pits again and changed the front wing. That made the car feel a little bit better, but it wasn't a great race.

Mark Webber – Finished 7th/Q11

The guys did a good job here all weekend. There were quite a few incidents in the first few laps, which we were able to capitalise on. The first lap went okay for us, but it was very tight on the track; you always have to be careful here on the first few corners.

There was oil or something on the track at the start, which made things difficult. After that I got my head down and spent the rest of the afternoon chasing Jarno Trulli.


TOYOTA

Jarno Trulli – Finished 6th/Q7

I'm delighted with another finish in the top six today. We finished right behind the top three teams so that is the most we could expect from this weekend. I made a strong start and I was able to gain a couple of places into the first corner.

The car was well balanced, I knew I was quick and we had a good strategy so I just got my head down. The car's pace was very strong, both cars finished and we looked very competitive. This result gives us a boost for the future.

Timo Glock – Finished 9th/Q13

That was a good race today and overall I was happy with the car. It was a big improvement for my driving style and I also made some small adjustments during the race which helped. The early laps were interesting with all the guys around me crashing into each other. That made it tricky with the oil in the first and middle sectors.

We could have made the points but I lost speed when I was chasing Nico Rosberg in the middle of the race. It was quite hard to fend off Fernando Alonso after that but in the end I'm happy to have finished. The car was really good in terms of set-up; now we just have to keep working on improving the rest.


SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO

Sebastien Bourdais – Finished 15th/Q15

I did the best I could, trying to drive as consistently as possible, making no mistakes. For a while I had a problem with the brakes. On the plus side, I have completed another race distance, feeling fine at the end of it, which is satisfying. But at the end of the day, I qualified 15th and finished 15th.

Maybe we did not make the best tyre choice for the start as I was very slow, but as soon as we switched to the option, it was much more competitive. A trouble-free race, a race with not much excitement either, but a useful experience.

Sebastian Vettel – DNF/Q19

I had a really good start this time after not so good ones in the previous two races. I was off like a rocket and I was able to pass two or three cars. Then going into first corner, when I was in the inside, I was blocked. We were really tight and I collided with a Force India.

My front wing was a bit damaged but this was not the main problem, which came in turn four when someone arriving from the inside hit me on the right rear, causing the big damage that forced me to retire. I do not know who he was and what he wanted to do. It's really disappointing as we could have had a good race, but we will try again next time.


HONDA RACING

Jenson Button – DNF/Q9

I got a good start and was able to make up a couple of places off the line and then I'm not sure what happened into turn five. I was hit from behind, got a puncture and had to pit, which really ruined my race from the first lap. After we'd changed the tyres, the pace of the car was really good and I felt very comfortable with the balance.

I caught up with David quite quickly as he seemed to be struggling and I had a go at passing him down into turn eight. Unfortunately he moved back over to the racing line late in the braking zone and I had nowhere to go and couldn't slow the car down in time. We had to retire as there was significant damage to the rear of the car.

Rubens Barrichello – Finished 11th/Q12

I didn't have a very good start and it was chaotic on the first lap with others going off the track. After that I was stuck behind Fisichella and lost a lot of time until the team did a great job with my first pit stop to get me out ahead of him on the road. From then on, the car felt good and I could start closing the gap to the pack ahead.

Overall we have had a very positive weekend in Bahrain. The car has shown the pace required to make Q3 and the lap times look good from the race today. Unfortunately we lacked the straight-line speed necessary to overtake on the long straights here today, which compromised our race. I'm confident that the developments that we have coming for the next few races will see us continue to improve and enable us to challenge for points.


SUPER AGURI

Takuma Sato – Finished 17th/Q22

I had an eventful few opening laps and I really enjoyed going through the middle of the pack. I had a little bit of contact and possibly damaged the aero, but nevertheless I got up to 14th position and that was exciting.

After the first lap there was quite a lot of oil on the track and that was a dangerous situation, but we got over it and I think that we had a good race. We had a problem in the second pit stop, which cost me position, but in the end it was very important that we finished the race here today and hopefully we can keep up the momentum.

Anthony Davidson – Finished 16th/Q21

It was an enjoyable race today. To come home with another two-car finish is great for the team. I had a bit of traffic for the first two stints of the race, but then once that cleared I was able to get into a good rhythm.

It was another strong race for me and I would like to thank the team for all their hard work this weekend.


FORCE INDIA

Giancarlo Fisichella – Finished 12th/Q18

I had a good start and I overtook some cars in turn one and then some more when some cars spun in turn seven. Our pace was consistent so I had a good race. In the middle stint there were some problems with the soft tyres and they did not seem to work as well as they could have, but at the end of the race the hard tyres were working well and I was comfortable.

I am really happy about my race, the team has done a good job so far and we just need to improve the car a little bit more and then we will be there.

Adrian Sutil – Finished 19th/Q20

An unlucky race for us. After quite a good start I had an accident in the first corner and lost my front wing and punctured my left tyre so I had to go into the pits. I managed to get back and change the nose and tyres so at least I could do a race distance.

The race turned out quite okay without major incidents. The car felt much better but I had some problems with the radio so I came into too early for my second pit stop. The race was a bit messy from that point of view, but at least I could finish and collect some information for the next race.


MCLAREN

Lewis Hamilton – Finished 13th/Q3

I am really disappointed and feel like I let the team down today as I always am the first to blame myself. The whole weekend has not been ideal, starting with the accident on Friday, but I will keep my chin up and bounce back at the next race. I messed up at the start as I didn't hit the switch early enough and therefore had not engaged the correct engine setting, and the anti-stall kicked in.

I lost a lot of places but things were still salvageable at that point. Then I had the incident with Fernando. I was behind him, and I moved to the right, and he moved to the right and that was it – a racing incident I guess. I am confident that we have the pace to be fighting at the front so the confidence is still there. There is a long way to go in the championship and I intend to win it.

Heikki Kovalainen – Finished 5th/Q5

Quite a tough race today. I made a great start and overtook Kimi coming into turn two, but then outbraked myself in turn four and he regained his position. I then went in too deep at turn eight and flat-spotted my right-front tyre, which caused a lot of vibration. It vibrated so much that I was worried something would fall off the car.

Things improved in the second stint and the car worked really well towards the end when we changed to the prime tyre. Fifth was the maximum I could do today. However we still scored points on a difficult day, and that is the main thing. I have total commitment to the team and a good car, and I know we will keep working hard to improve for the start of the European races.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 FORMULA 1™ Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix
PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 05:22  
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Soyyo wrote:
Great first part of the race with lot of action and very interesting pitstops. A necessary win for Massa, a solid performance by Kimi, great results for BMW, Heidfeld and Kubica (despite loosing position to Massa and Kimi).
BMW including both drivers have more points this year than last year and leads constructors without a victory!!!
Up to date: 3 races, 3 differents winners, 3 differents pole positions and 3 differents podiums.
Bahrain Race Summary:
Great start: Massa
Great overtaking: Kimi over Kubica
Bad start: Kubica
Worst start: Hamilton
Top Teams: Ferrari, BMW, McLaren, Toyota, Williams (Agree with phil1993)
Next stop Spain: shall the trend continue: Would we sea a new pole, a new winner, and a new podium?


there have been 7 different drivers to stand on the podium this year. :cool:
i reckon massa will repeat his victory of last year in spain and Macca will be stronger than BMW as they have a new aero package

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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 06:52  
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No doubt in Renault. Its just a pile of junk and incompetent machinery trying to boot others out of the race !!
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joostlamers wrote:
Hamilton with 2 bad luck races, equal in points with Kova (no bad luck races)


Bad Luck?

Bad luck is don't know how to star a car, and don't know how to pass a car 1 second slower and then crash with him?

uffff, really really bad luck, that's true!!! :huh: &doh
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donald29 wrote:
Great result :thumbsup: Massa won when he wasn't on pole, proving everyone wrong !yahoo: (Hamilton has never won from anywhere other than pole)

Don't know if Alonso did make Hamilton deliberately hit him, but if he did it was pretty skillful to do so whilst he himself sustained so little damage.

Heidfeld now 2nd in drivers! BMW lead constructors! BMW defo second best team today :cool:

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Who are Alonso rivals? (for championship and every race). Hamilton isn't it. Are Toyota, Coulthard+Webber, ...

The front spoiler can be replaced, rear not, so you only can do it if get anything crashing both cars
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 07:23  
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iceman1 wrote:
AzShadow wrote:

Anyway, no need to insult Alonso. :roll:: He's doing his own race too and I don't think he would ruin his race on purpose as it's quite a miracle his car didn't suffer any damage.

From Hamiltons onboard camera it didn't look like Alonso brakes or slowed suddenly.
Lewis took a lot more speed through the chicane than Alonso and that’s what caused him to catch up.


On first lap, Hamilton can crash Alonso too. Only by a few centimeters didn't crash. And after turn 1 second lap, Hamilton was too much closer to Alonso
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 08:18  
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Spanish TV, said that Alonso warning his team about coulthard overtake him with yellow flags. Anyone know about it?. Really Alonso can not score any point.
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 08:47  
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indeed a sensational race for felipe .... well done

alonso certainly has been disappointing thus far

BMWs showing signs of improvement .. we sholud see them winning in future races
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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2008, 10:22  
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It was a fantastic race :) absaloutley amazing!!! i couldn't even think of an even bettter race? Kimi stormed to 2nd place, and mass proves he hasn't 'lost' anything :D so it's time for the Ferrari era to begin once more :)
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