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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 20:30  
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I am unhappy, but penalty is fair.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 20:47  
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what do you Think about The Race strategie?
From Q2 it looked like Ferrari had around half a second on Mclaren
Massa's engineer sounded pretty pleased with himself afterwards, so I reckon Massa is only 2 or 3 laps lighter than Kimi.
Kimi said he had trouble finding grip and Massa said he had a great lap which could explain the margin

Time difference from Q2 to Q3

Massa 1.3s
Kimi 2.1s but admits he didn't do a great lap
Trulli 1.9s
Kubica 1.9s
Heidfeld 2.1s but had the McLaren train to deal with
Webber 2.1s
Alonso 3.3s but had the McLaren chicanes to deal with
Heikki 1.9s
Lewis 1.9s
Glock 4.6s settled for 10th after using all his soft tyres to make Q3

Massa however going on Kimi's Q2 is 1.6s so he does appear to be the lightest.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 20:51  
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As palino said, its fair but im not happy about it either as I support McLaren. But if the Macca's weren't trying to block anyone else, why were they on the racing line? Doesn't really help their case.
Although, I'm quite sure if it was the 2 Ferrari's in this situation it would of been a wrist slapping instead.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 22:17  
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Penalty is good :)

my first 6 in race on rain :)

1. Kubica
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Heidfeld
5. Massa
6. Webber
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 22:32  
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ferrai has the best record over here and will win 1-2
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 23:29  
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How can you not make sense of the whole situation? :blink: It was clear for everyone to see that the Macca's were the only cars out of the ones crawling to the pits that were on the racing line. Did you even look at the photos or videos? And yes, I would say the same if a Ferrari or Super Aguri or whoever were involved, if that's your question.
And btw, Heikki should have gotten a 10 place penalty for blocking Alonso also. So I should just ignore that because he's one of my fave drivers? :roll::

And yet again you bring the Australia Q1 argument. You're really desperate, aren't you? :roll:: Kubica still had about 10 min to do a lap in that session, while Heidfeld and Alonso were on their last flying laps! :wave: If you can't see the difference, then I'm sory to say, but you really are just a blind fanboy.


i agree with you on the whole, however, whether kubica was blocked on their last lap or their first, it should still be treated in the same method!

i think they should just stop using race fuel and let them do low fuel runs so we really see whos fastest and no strategy comes into it!


But this kind of blocking that the Macca drivers did is a new thing, it's not just a "normal" qualy blocking. Last year we didn't have a problem with drivers crawling as slowly as possible back to pits after Q3 to save a few drops of fuel, since the fuel regs were different last year. This crawling thing is a new problem.

And fine, do all the crawling you want guys, but please don't do it in the racing line... :roll::

Therefore I think the Macca boys got off rather lightly since going 60kmph in the racing line where others are going 300kmph is not only immensely stupid but also potentially very dangerous. I don't think they did it intentionally though, they were just fast asleep.

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 22 Mar 2008, 23:42  
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what do you Think about The Race strategie?
From Q2 it looked like Ferrari had around half a second on Mclaren
Massa's engineer sounded pretty pleased with himself afterwards, so I reckon Massa is only 2 or 3 laps lighter than Kimi.
Kimi said he had trouble finding grip and Massa said he had a great lap which could explain the margin

Time difference from Q2 to Q3

Massa 1.3s
Kimi 2.1s but admits he didn't do a great lap
Trulli 1.9s
Kubica 1.9s
Heidfeld 2.1s but had the McLaren train to deal with
Webber 2.1s
Alonso 3.3s but had the McLaren chicanes to deal with
Heikki 1.9s
Lewis 1.9s
Glock 4.6s settled for 10th after using all his soft tyres to make Q3

Massa however going on Kimi's Q2 is 1.6s so he does appear to be the lightest.


I agree with you, Massa is probably lighter than Kimi, how much is hard to say. Alonso is very heavy, he said so himself.

Kubica is usually lighter than Heidfeld and the Macca drivers have about the same fuel load, they will pit in the laps after one another.

That said - if it rains ALL my predictions will be totally and utterly wrong! :p

And THAT said - GO ALONSO! :pray: :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 00:24  
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I've only seen the footage from Youtube but both McLarens derserve there penatly they were clearly on the racing line and shouldn't do that.

I saw a photo of when Alonso came into that turn and heikki was still on the approach from the racing line stuffing alonsos lap

All fair.

Beside it should spice up the race as long as massa doesn't win i hope raikkonen takes him into turn 1
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 00:25  
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Prediction
1 - Heidfield
2 - Hamilton
3 - Kubica
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 01:44  
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how do u think the hondas are gona do in this race? Jenson was once up in 4th during the practice sessions, and considering last weeks performance by barichello, i dont think theres much of a hold back on their car.
I put my fantasy points on them, and hopefully they'll do good.
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 01:45  
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Suntrek wrote:
iceman1 wrote:
what do you Think about The Race strategie?
From Q2 it looked like Ferrari had around half a second on Mclaren
Massa's engineer sounded pretty pleased with himself afterwards, so I reckon Massa is only 2 or 3 laps lighter than Kimi.
Kimi said he had trouble finding grip and Massa said he had a great lap which could explain the margin

Time difference from Q2 to Q3

Massa 1.3s
Kimi 2.1s but admits he didn't do a great lap
Trulli 1.9s
Kubica 1.9s
Heidfeld 2.1s but had the McLaren train to deal with
Webber 2.1s
Alonso 3.3s but had the McLaren chicanes to deal with
Heikki 1.9s
Lewis 1.9s
Glock 4.6s settled for 10th after using all his soft tyres to make Q3

Massa however going on Kimi's Q2 is 1.6s so he does appear to be the lightest.


I agree with you, Massa is probably lighter than Kimi, how much is hard to say. Alonso is very heavy, he said so himself.

Kubica is usually lighter than Heidfeld and the Macca drivers have about the same fuel load, they will pit in the laps after one another.

That said - if it rains ALL my predictions will be totally and utterly wrong! :p

And THAT said - GO ALONSO! :pray: :thumbsup:


I think this time round, Heidfeld is lighter than Kubica...
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 02:27  
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Any bets on STR finishing ahead of RBR again and in the points?
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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 04:14  
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The RBR (Webber) and STR (Vettel) will have a sweet race if it is a wet race, so Hammy should be careful, they might whip his @rse if he do something stupid again behind the safety car-- if and only if it is a wet race. :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 04:17  
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A Blessed Easter Sunday to all!! :wave:

Good Easter egg colors to find for tomorrow will be RED :cheezy: !yahoo: !yahoo: :roll::


I hope you're not jumping to conclusions!!
If it rains, it could be a good day to have a Cadbury's Buttons easter egg (Jenson, incase you didnt geddit)


Nah, Button would not materialize....he's a CENTURY EGG, if you really knew him that well you'll know what I mean dude :cheezy:

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 Post subject: Re: 2008 Formula 1 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 23 Mar 2008, 04:18  
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counting down to race day! !yahoo:
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